Why conspiracy theories and the Illuminati are not real
83Conspiracy theories are not true
Conspiracy theorists are the people who spread fear and rumours that there is some kind of negative or evil force behind an incident or even, in the case of the Illuminati conspiracy theorists, running the world.
But it's vitally important to remember conspiracy theories are just that - theories. There is no evidence to prove that they are true. A theory, according to the dictionary, is ''a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances''.
So, for example, a theory that all fish will turn green in the future is a theory. You and me could come up with a theory that the sky is purple. We could put together a scientific paper explaining why we believe it is reall. But that doesn't make it true. Any scientist will tell you that nothing can be proved, things can only ever be disproved. Likewise, suggestions by Richard Dawkins that there's no such thing as god is also only a throy - he's not right. He just has an idea about how he thinks the world works.
This realisation is the fundamental problem the masses have when they read a conspiracy theory and get all excited. They shriek, ''the world's going to end in 2012''. No, it's not. ''Agghhh, the Illuminati are controlling what milk I use on my cereal.'' No, they're not, you are.
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This brings me on to the characters of conspiracy theorists.
They are control freaks. Why? Because the world is chaotic, random and for the most part, there's there's no justice and reason why something happened. 911 was a tragedy. Nobody will ever know exactly what happened. It just did. The Tsunami killed thousands of people in Haiti. It just did. There's no reason why. That's just the world.
But conspiracy theories fail to accept that sometimes things just happen because that's the nature of the world we live in. They have to have an explanation ands answers to an event when sometimes there is none. No meaning. But conspiracy theorists categorize everything into the conspiracy theory box which makes it easier for them to grasp.
Conspiracy theorists are deeply suspicious people who do not trust life. They're distrustful of the the world and people. ''All politicians are corrupt'', ''all business owners are greedy'', ''people are out to get what they can for themselves'', are the kind of messages they're used to. They don't understand that the world is full of kind-hearted and warm people with good intentions and that even some of these are those earning millions of dollars a year. But a conspiracy theory justifies their beliefs that people in power of bad by holding a conspiracy theory idea.
Conspiracy theorists are the type of people who constantly blame others for what's happened. This means that all the bad things that have happened to them in life they can blame on this shadowy force that they believe is running the world. They can pass over the responsibility for their life to those that they think are controlling the world. Whereas conspiracy theorists will say that they 're empowering themselves with knowledge, this is actually giving somebody else power over their lives.
Conspiracy theorists are arrogant. They think that they're the only ones who have realised ''what's really going on'' and that everybody is just a sheep. But there are some very happy clued up sheep who are enjoying life much more than conspiracy theorists and have more money and friends to boot. Conspiracy theorists, on the other hand, tend to be isolated and poor academic types who spend much of their time online. They are so arrogant in the belief of their own super-intelligence that they don't respect or appreciate the intelligence of the common man, nor, as is about to be explained, do they understand the power of life, and the world.
Conspiracy theorists have a sheltered and small-minded view of the world. They do not comprehend how vast and diverse and distant governments and countries around the world are. They do not know how complicated the day-to-running of a society's courts, hospitals, police and other services are. Often the running of these services can come down to an individual's decision.
Yes, maybe their are some secret organisations like the Freemasons, the Illuminati or if you're in The Simpsons, the stone-cutters. But really, who cares about a bunch a rich, bloated, middle aged men in a boy's club with silly secret handshakes talking about their plans for world domination. And undoubtedly, there are corrupt businessman and politicians who collude to help each other out and cover things up. This is nothing new and it certainly isn't a conspiracy. These kind of abuses of power have been ongoing for hundreds if not thousands of years. And they are usually isolated and not interlinked.
The world, nature, the great spirit, god, whoever, is a more powerful place than any of these and their plans would always fail, be exposed, or superseded by some other organisation .
So there you have it. Hopefully people who've read this will treat the next conspiracy theory when it comes along with a bit more scepticism.
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I agree that there are cover ups and corruptions of power - and even secret societies. But not that they control the world.
Like your thoughts and completely agree about the "conspiracy theorists" who see a conspiracy behind every bush (pun intended!) The usual purpose of a conspiracy theor is to foment hatred or distrust. I don't think it's helpful to be anaieve, but I smilarly don't think the conspiracy theorists add any knowledge of value to ordinary citizens getting about their daily lives.
BTW while your writing is clear it would be helped by a spell and grammar check, just to make it more readable!
Love and peace
Tony
Thanks for the comment, tonymac. You're right about the haterd and distrust part. Unfortunately it's vulnerable and irrational peeople who get sucked into them. Apologies for the grammar and poor spelling - I was in a fit of frustation after somebody close to me had become absorbed in conspiracy theories.
conspiracy theorist are like the boy who cried wolf......but i wonder if the wolf will ever come.
Yes, indeed, very prophetic. There could well be lots of genuine injustices that are being dismissed by people tired of conspiracies. Thanks for your comment.
You must work for them!
Haha, if I did I wouldn't be writing for a living! No, I just think evidence and reason are very important.
911 did not just happened they planned it if you think that they just got in a airplane and decided right then in there im going to high jack this plane, no it takes planing to do what they did and hurricane and tsunamis happens because of us because the way we live. things dont just happen, to every action there is a reaction. I think your in denial and dont want to see the truth in what kind of world we live in. We live in a world of lies. yes i do believe that there good people out there but very rare.
hi Rick, i found it very interesting reading this, you obviously have your mind set, and i'm not going to criticise that. Obviously these "theories" have not been proved, however, how can you be so sure, it sounds stupid i know, but there is no way in the world you can discount some theories, hense what's feeding the theorists, if there was a complete way to prove them wrong, then there would be no conspiracy theories at all. I think you have a very closed mind and maybe you would benefit from spending less time slagging off conspiracy theorists and more time trying to scientifically prove them wrong, rather than blowing hot air. By the way, that was not meant to be offensive, just my point of view.
Sidonie :)
PEOPLE THAT DO NOT BELIVE THERES A ILLUMINATE NEED TO OPEN THERES EYES
THERES TO MANY FACTS DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH 7 DAY THEORY
you're so rong.you work for them!
Your hub points out what I have written in my latest hub about 911.
However, while you have defined the rule, the rule is the exception to the truth.
Ok, thanks for the feedback, OpinionDuck. I'll read you hub about 911.
great article, I have a friend who is exactly this type, and there is no changing their mind or even being able to open it...these conspiracy types really believe there are smarter than everyone...I feel on some level hardcore conspiracy theorists may have some kind of mental illness or as you say just angry at the world.
Totally agree, Rob. Most of them seem totally unwilling to look at different views because they are ''right''. They also rarely produce any evidence to back up their claims.
There are people that believe in every conspiracy theory, and some of these people are nuts, but to believe that there is no truth to any conspiracy theory, is just as ignorant and closed minded as you say the conspiracy theorists are! I have written a hub titled "why people believe in conspiracy theories". I think you should check it out!
Yeah, I'll check out your hub, jerseykids... Thanks. Rick
and the best part in this world is that you still can survive living with all the conspiracies that had been evolved. It is you that make the changes not others, not even barack obama . You got it ! Rich are getting richer and the poor must get smarter to upstage the dumber richer people. I'll rest my case .
Those "corrupt businessman and politicians" are the ones who are making world decisions about things they DONT tell us in the news. They are the ones with all the money, they are the ones who have ties with organizations of high authority like the CIA. I bet you don't know how fucked up and secretive and corrupt the CIA is but you can read a couple books and watch a couple documentaries and it will all become real to you. There is a LOT of stuff you don't know about and it shows by the way you wrote this article. You clearly don't know what you are talking about, and have not done enough research on either side to say you do. You even said it yourself, there are many secret societies out there. The illuminati are real, free masons are real, the eastern stars are real, the bilderberg group is real, and there are many others. In the end they all have two things in common and that is that they sell their souls to the devil, and they believe in new world order. New world order is just a way that they will spread the devils word around in such a way that little gullible people like you can believe everything they say and think that their is nothing wrong with this world. Read book of Revelation if you don't believe it. We have already been warned. You'll see when they start planting microchips into your children or grandchildren's body, secretly having the mark of the devil on it, claiming its for something good. "oh it will help us keep your medical records." "oh it will help against credit card fraud and stealing your identity" "its fast and resourceful! its the NWO!" But i bet you don't know anything about that stuff either now do you? -_- simple minded people. (and no I'm not a jesus freak or some bible obsessed weirdo i just know my facts)
I found your mass generalization of conspiracy theories/theorists ridiculous.
you said---
''Yes, maybe their are some secret organisations like the Freemasons, the Illuminati or if you're in The Simpsons, the stone-cutters. But really, who cares about a bunch a rich, bloated, middle aged men in a boy's club with silly secret handshakes talking about their plans for world domination.
Well when you think about it most of us work for or are effected by companies that are run by CEO's. These CEO's make decisions that impact the way we live and on our lifestyle. It could be job cuts, income, suppliers ect. So really there already is world domination on a global corporate scale. But I think you are scared to face reality. It's a lot easier to pretend the world is a great place to live and that we humans are a perfect race living in harmony. As long as these guys in their boys club don't bother you it's ok? As mentioned earlier we are indirectly or directly implicated by these groups.
I'm not advertising that I'm a tin foil hat wearer, but I think it's essential to keep an open mind. Have you even bothered to investigate on any so called theories that you're generalizing about before you typed your little blog? Majority of conspiracy theorists aren't even arrogant and you mentioned either. They're tired of living in a world that could be rid of poverty. Tired of living in a world where it's all about the individual and not each other. Tired of living in a world where we are slaves to income and interest rates. I'm telling you to go do research on 911 or something and you're mind will open up, you have to want to find it yourself. You seem like a smart guy that wants to bury his head in the sand. Get curious, look at alternative journalism, make sure you know whats on both sides of the coin. Peace
there are good people, stop denying that. You think you know everything in the world but you don't. Now go and stop posting dumb posts about 'The Truth of 9/11' and 'The Real Story of Lincoln's and Kennedy's Assassinations'
You are ignorant to say that 9/11 "just happened". Are you freaking kidding me?? So your saying that a group of people all decided to hijack their planes on the same day, and two of them decided to fly into the WTC?? Now I don't believe it happened that way. Look into who owned the WTC and his nice fat insurance payout on the event of their destruction. Look into how the skull and bones society at yale university has ties to our government by way of several alumni. Look into the geneology of most of our government officials including how the bush family is related to people like queen Elizabeth. Ever heard the saying "keeping it in the family"? Oh! Maybe you should look up how bush allowed several members of osama bin laden's family to leave the country after a conference of the Carlyle group where several of bin laden's family as well as the bush family have done business together for years. And the new world order is nothing new. Rumors and ideas have been around for a long time. In fact, the enitire basis for the new world order stems from the original ideas of the original skull and bones society in Germany that a Yale student brought back to the united states with him. Many of our most powerful Americans either came from Yale or are close friends. Ever wonder why a c student of occidental college gets a scholarship to COLUMBIA and now s president of our country?? LOOK IT UP
but doesnt this technically make you a conspiracy theorist?
think about it for a second, think "vast and diverse" you feel that we are using scape goats to hide the facts but doesnt sound like your not compensating the possibility that we are right. you can never say someone is wrong without thinking more "vast and diverse".
Why do people complain about spelling,Im an old man and can understand any misspelled word,if you cant't then skip it and go to the next post,then later have a 10 yr old explain it to you.
The illuminati conspiracy killed itself when everything became a symbol of NWO or the illuminati. I mean, every triangle or owl or whatever is a sign of illuminati. I used to believe in the illuminati, but now i see that much of the "proof" iis not proof at all, but simple theories which can't be proved. It is the same as any religion. It can be proved, but it can't be disproved either and because it can't be disproved some people believe in it.
And if the illuminati controlled the media, why wouldn't they control youtube too? where most of these theories are uploadet. And speaking of the media, even if they control the media, they don't force you to believe it and I see many different point of viewes on the different news companies, so it wouldn't make sense if they controlled it.
Free masons exist, yes. Some of them are proberly very rich, yes, and money is power, yes. But that does not make them some power greedy devil worshippers who wants to control the world and they wouldn't even have the power to do it. And all this devil worship crap doesn't make any sense. The REAL illuminati was hunted down by the church, and the church made people believe that these people, who actually believed in science, was devil worshippers, so they could turn the people againts them. For some reason, this naive theory has been here ever since.
And all these quotes where someone mention "the new world order" has nothing to do with the illuminati. The new world order means: A world with a new order - democracy f.x. and not communisme. Stop twisting the real truth and go out and live your lifes. Too many of my friends has gone crazy with this illuminati bullshit and they are starting to loose their mind
People who dont belive in what the elite ,i.e Skull and bones, illuminati, freemasons, bohemian, are doing then they really need o sit down and open your eyes to how many years of your life has been moulded into.
the new world order started september 11 2001....simple...
and ofcourse they run youtube! its the biggest video site around, even the WWW. was created by them...look it up!! study what each society is about and who is involved in the societys history,;ie, presidents, royalty etc...
they allow such videos reaveling what really is going on in the world because people are too ignorant to open up to the truth!!! open your mind!! if more people stood up and realised the mess, the more chance life would REALLY change for the better....REVOLUTION PEOPLE
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Rickrideshorses
I think I would do a little more reseaching my friend
but,this time pay a little more attention to what you read
Ok i don't know why but i feel that you have not fully researched your topic. Maybe if you have a look into social engineering for example this might help. As for 911 they now have proof positive that there were bombs/explosives in the buildings. The Proof is in what have only recently been released by NIST after they were forced to by the courts. Google it and see what you find.
Thanks and kind regards
Dawn. x x
The world may have blinded me, but the LORD gave me the eye to see!!!!!!!!!!
The REAL Illuminati was hunted down by the church, and the church made people believe that these people, who actually believed in science, was devil worshippers, so they could turn the people against them.
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The Illuminati was a faction created under the catholic church by the Jesuit society , financed by the international bankers who were the Knights Templar back in the mid seventeenth century.
It is a modern myth created by the ruling establishment that the Illuminati and the Catholic church were opposed to each other.
The Catholic church is not christianity, the Catholic church is a reformed church of Paganism parading as Christianity.
The early Roman Empire despised the Christian faith and murdered Christians for their beliefs. Christians in ancient Rome were anti establishment and exposed the corrupt leadership.
Emperor Constantine in the late Roman Empire reformed Christianity and promoted a new religion throughout Europe that kept all the early Roman worship of Paganism.
Christmas for instance is the celebration of Saturnalia and not the celebration of Jesus's birth.
Modern bibles have been re written and mistranslated to incorporate Paganism.
The Hierarchy of the Catholic Church is the Jesuit Order which is a faction of the Illuminati.
Remember this
His - tory has been re written to corrupt society. It has been mixed with half truths and lies to keep sheep in line.
Before condemning and making judgement on any truth one must see all sides of information.
The problem with this modern world is that history is selective and to become wise in a world enshrouded with deception one has to realise that any truth or belief we hold on to is merely a fraction of the truth.
I just voted up for this hub and I am someone who comes very much from a conspiracy theory background although over the past few years I am falling further and further away from it due to the biased views of people who subscribe to these beliefs!
You're right, sometimes the people pushing the theories are more out of touch with reality than then rest of us!
if its not true then how do you explain,
1. admitance of existance by the elite (presidents)
2. the global oil hiest (illegal wars)
3. poison in all food products and the air. (fluride)
4. De classified Files that shows US Goverment Clearly
trying to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere
(Operation NorthWoods)
google it or look on wiki (i dont personaly trust wiki but the info is there)
If they tell you they believe in Transparancy its a load of LIES.
your an idiot nameless
everyone looks at those instances from different perspectives, stop trying to influence people negatively
why dont everyone just keep positive and stop letting these conspiracies limit you from your potential of happiness. Who cares if my life has been moulded this way, i've been and am happy, and thats all that should matter in everyones life.
i think everyone here should "open their eyes" and just enjoy what you have.
your an idiot
nice come back
I see a lot of naive ideas with no research to validate your condescending attitudes. Pandering to shallow yet popular beliefs do not qualify you as an expert, in fact, it DOES qualify you as an extraordinary serf. I wish you the best in your beloved, yet simple place in the world's Idiocracy.
ahahahahaha, you've got to be joking. "Conspiracy theories and the Illuminati are not true"
That's gotta be one of, or the most ignorant statement the world's got in existence now.
The illuminati do in fact exist, they have before, they do now.
They are the reason you don't have everything you've ever dreamed of having (besides your own self), and they are why the world is so evil now.
I'm going to make a statement in reaction to your retarded statement, "You're a dumbass"
I have to agree with John for Truth. You definitely contradict yourself in this hub. And I do believe that it is actually more arrogant on your behalf to label people who are searching for deeper truths as "arrogant" and also as "non-academic types". I don't find myself to be arrogant in the least, in fact I'm the opposite. But I do find myself believing in the Illuminati and that they do want to control the masses. That doesn't prevent me from enjoying my life to the fullest, though. I'm the happiest I've ever been and enjoy my beautiful family and the life that God/Goddess has given me. But it is nice to know the truth why so many horrible decisions are made in the government, large companies, and even the entertainment industry.
Also, it does appear that you've fallen for their lies and deceit or you work for them directly. This is what they want us to believe.
I have just one quick "after thought" and I'll pose it in a question with a preface.
Earlier in a response, you responded to John for truth with this
"I agree that there are cover ups and corruptions of power - and even secret societies." While the title of your hub is "Conspiracy theories and the Illuminati are not true"
You are contradicting yourself on the highest level. Corrupted powers and cover ups define conspiracy theory. You are unwilling to accept that the corruption and cover ups extend to the highest levels of POWER.
Start with Plato's "Republic" and then read Machiavelli's "The Prince".
So here's my promised question. How do you know about secret societies if they are a secret?
You must have an inside track with these people. Hmmmm?
You can say there is no proof for conspiracy theories. There is however fluoridation of water supply, pesticides in our food supply, unconstitutional wars or invasions, secret bailouts which devalues our currency. More sacrifice of our freedom by TSA groping pat downs and nude x-ray machines. Prices are going up people are out of work and homeless. In the US, our country drops bombs on other countries and kills millions of innocent people. Corporations influence government policy and basically bought and paid for Washington DC. It is all a show, and the politician lie so much now you can't believe anything they say. They said there were nuclear weapons in Iraq but they lied and now there using the same excuse to invade Iran. It is okay though once the United States economy collapses the whole world is going to be homeless.
I'm quite sure that Rickyridesunicorns is aware of much more than the rest of us provincials regarding world management, so this is obviously not intended for him. Here is a bit of balance on the topic for those who may wonder if the delusion above has any merit what so ever.
14 Conspiracy Theories That The Media Now Admits Are Conspiracy Facts
This is a prime example on why this country will fail........ Illuminati is Real.... I am a member of the A.S.E and an expert in symbolism and have been studying Occults for a very long time. With Facts and proven facts.. I have told many to show me otherwise?? and I will give up my belief of the illuminati and symbolism. Anyone?? If you are not a believer I can make you see the world with your other eye!! And you will never see the world the same again... I have a 90% eye opening rate... The ones who don't believe are the ones who fear the truth.. A.S.E
Contact me get the truth!.. Tabariyenboehlerthai@yahoo.com
Rickrideshorses i tottaly agree with all that u said .. i know a few peoples who are sucked in to those theories their common point is that they are unemployed and have too much time reading articles on the same thinkers ... how can someone rule the entire world lol ?? is there any1 who can stop me to ride my bike after im gonna post this??? so i have my own decisions right:) ok whats the point to destroy the peoples to make them sick to poison their food forcing them to take medication like many of u conspiracy theorist think who smart on earth want to do that!?!?! SICK peoples dont go to work right they are nonproductive and there is no MONEY for those who leading the world right...is it the point to make us medicine/drug addict? i dont think so;) thats not the main point of "those who leading the wolrd"...I do not remember when I last took a medicine i guess they have bad poison:D oh yea .. probably i will see and feel soon right :)? :PP there is o many things u lolspiracy theorists dont know.. go find happy people and try to feel them without bullshiting about those teories like u all used to do.. media is a strong lobby.. stronger then all those peoples "who leading the world" in a world of internet every moron like me can write stupid things:) go and enjoy ur life go find ur self work coz it helps alot and @Tabari other eye supposed to be for something what u cant even imagine ;)
i know two guys who dont want to work coz the world goes wrong there should be no taxes and so on lol why should we pay this and that hehe... but they like to have phones and car and internet.. smoking pot all the time reading about TC all the time they would like to have house from mud and so on but they are not alowed to do that... how many of u know peoples like that?
we tend to believe in things that are very hard to prove but either way, what about the documentaries that are there to make us believe those theories?
Lol funny.... There will always be non believers... The blind cant see, the deaf can not hear, you see it does not matter what you, me, and us believe... You see it's what they believe can I ask is any one that coments on here religious?? I'm not but I'm knowledgable, see some of us have figured out what is already in place, does anyone know history?? True history?? The best most reliable history book in the world...?? If not how can you dismiss anything?? The history book being the bible old and new testament, as well as the Koran..? If not before you dismiss these claims you should get a crash coarse and learn a thing or two before you dismiss something. It's all there people.. You see I have opened more eyes than you can imagine, people just like you guys as well as even people who before thought this was crazy insane.. With facts, with proof, no theories, things that were written long before any supposed to be consperisy
Sorry folks I hit the wrong key... Any way continued from above... Conspiracy see these things were already in place, you see your minds can not even comprehend the magnitude of what is happening today, look at world history, ancient history, and American and European history and then make a comment, I'll give you a test poeple anyone challenge me not so I can prove you wrong.. So I can open your eyes... Any question about anything going on in the world... Or a consp.. Theory... And I will show you the way.... Also things that are in the very near future.. I'm waiting...A.S.E remember people..." it's not what we believe in it's what they believe in"....
Tabari, I don't know where you're going with this, but may I suggest starting your own hub account here. It's free and there are many of us (myself included) that would love to hear/read your thoughts and consider any proof you may offer on these topics.
Put me down as one of your followers and we shall see what happens.
CJ
Thanks that's exactly what my purpose is and exactly what we need...and America and Americans need....
Another thing I wanted to say is to all those who do not see, and continue to dwell in this world with one eye, do what I did when I learned this great gift of wisdom......I offer those who do not believe a challenge... Not a real challenge but a self challenge....try it...
First turn off your tv then go about 3-4 weeks with no TV, only the news...but news once a day... No Entertainment, just news..No music..... But in the meantime read...read things about..... Well the things you think are bogus, crazy, or insane... about why you comment on ILLUMINATI not real.. Then this may be a bigger challenge..but try it... Do you live in a CITY? Our around a city? If so go in that city go to the lower class areas in that city even towns, where most of the crimes take place, poverty what ever your city labels it... drive around be vigilant, look around you, look at the actions.. Look at the living conditions.. Look at the infrastructure....
Look at the people...
If you are a person who wants to make a difference stop and talk to the elders, then the middle ages, finally the children..pay attention to the way they talk... The way they may look.. Their demeanor.. Attitude... Not in a prejudged way...
Then drive away from the city if you do not live there, drive to the middle and upper class areas do the same.... Then take it one step further.... Go to the country the rural areas do the same.... Now all experiences will be different in vast numbers.. But when you get home... Take a min and ask yourself what do you see....???
Yes you will ask yourself.. Why is it like that? And you will probably say to the negative things... Well that's how they want to live.. Right? And the positive things may open your eyes as well...but the negative things you may say it's their fault right?..... No it is not...it's our fault... Americans fault... not Americas... but us as Americans...to let it get that way.... And I still see the same even worse today...I can give facts on why it is this way...and why it will never change if we do not open our eyes... The young people that's all they see that's all they kno... Who will ever show them the way... The Jersey shore??... MtV.... Lady Ga Ga....Reality TV... The entertainment industry... I think not....
The fighters have come and gone... The Malcolm's the Martains.. The Kennedy's... The Diana's the people movers are gone.... Who is stepping up to move to a positive direction?? There is no voice... The media the television the music...has got everyone trapped... Average person is to busy and to overwhelmed to see it.... And is only getting more overwhelmed, with stress of the world around them....as well as masking us with so much false news and entertainment to keep our mind off of what's really going on...as well as false over drawn politics... False war coverage and many other things... Therefore what do we do ???? Nothing... No voices... No one is stepping up.... Years before I was born 60s 70s if we wanted something done we went out and fought for it.... We demanded change.... Look at us now... Look at what I said earlier about what you see in your every day life then go to a area which you are not from and see??? People, kids, teens, in these different areas are all worlds apart....Why... What about those on corners running their city down.... Whats their future hold?? Where will they be in 5-10 years?? Where will their kids be in 10-15 years?? As you know population is growing at an unprecedented pace.... What about the others in the nice suburbs of that same city or town... All the kids, teens with more opportunities Where they going to work?? School?? There already is not enough jobs..5-10 years will there be more??
So challenge yourself try it... Make that trip in that 3-4 weeks a few times... Or if you work in these areas or commute around them take a detour just to see.. Then after you sit there and think turn back on that TV.. and flip threw the channels...Watch the news... What have you read did you research what you thought was inexistent during that period??? Now what do you see on that television?? ?? Are we living like what we see on TV?? some may think so.... But we do not our every day life is not like that.. So why do we try??? Why do we see so many things, and say wow I want that??? And I want to do that??And why do are young want to emulate those on TV?? Why is there so much all the same things on TV??why does the news blow everything out of portion??? I can go on for days..
My point is you start to see where we are as humanity... Things are so bad that some things that were bad now seem normal.... It's not normal you see if you never speak you will never be heard... Right? so if we never say wait a min. That's not right that's bad...or that's wrong... Won't there be a change if not a change at least a challenge..won't there be a slow down??? I bet there would be.. So why..?do we continue to let our country go down and down farther?and taking the world with it, because if we fall the world will follow.... We are falling and fast but we are not fighting back... People are not aware.. And reasons why they are not aware is because they do not want us to be aware...and if we are aware not enough of us are to make a difference, they know this that's why they are rapidly destroying our values and tightening our freedom they know that more and more of US are becoming aware and they are afraid of people with voices 100 moves 1000 1000 moves 10,000 10,000 moves 100,000 and 100,000 moves 1,000,000 plus and that can change the pace and open millions of minds back to free thinkers..... NOW ANYONE want facts! about or learn about illuminati??? and this world we live in so you to can understand??? I'm here... Nothing but facts just ask...
Im sorry rickrideshorses but I never gave my take on the illuminati... Do I Believe of them yes but... I'm sure they do not run around calling themselves illuminati thus if you understand evolution things evolve.... things change... things progress to different more complex things.. But beliefs, beliefs are beliefs and if there are very strong believers those beliefs will be enforced, and carried on as far and as long as someone believes in them...
But beliefs with power, that is a problem and these beliefs with evolution and power is serious and as I first and for most tell ANYONE.. who believes in or does not Believe in the illuminati....is that IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE BELIEVE IN IT'S WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN...
I can go deep into all aspects of illuminati/Freemasons/numerology Symbolism, parallels and perpendiculars/religion/and history world history... Ancient history American history...European history And it all has the same source of this world then and today......and our future....so people can better understand this hole world we live in.... Then you will with out any doubt understand what is going on... It's almost to much to comprehend.. Thus why many choose not to believe in it... For some cannot handle it... Some fear it... I did as well at first but when you have children you are molded not to fear because they are the future... And being a true father as our Father God in heaven wants from us... Guide them teach them show them the way teach them what god wanted for us that has been takin away slowly from us... So fear we must not have none..
Some it's too much for they have no guidance so they become radical from false information about this...this is why I'm here..
Others feel there way of life is fine the way it is and as long as the prey and go to church they will be fine.. Yes that is great but that in itself is selfish,
You save yourself in a way.. What about others?? Your family or friends who do not do as you do?? Wouldn't you like them to be the same?? I'm sure it is yes right? Here is the problem.... And the time is now.. This is what I do and I am trying to get others to do as well, there is nothing crazy or radical of what I do... knowledge is not crazy you mean to tell me you can watch TV and get caught up in all the shows but you think knowing about your world and the reason why your shows are on and even why that tv is in front of you is crazy?? Really knowledge is crazy??
Anyway you see.. Yes devote your life to God, but we as a god loving people need to get the truth out billions do not know the truth.. I show truth Which I do not push any religion on any one just pure knowledge... And guess what people.... It brings you right back to your church... your holy books..your beliefs the information is unbelievable... You will see the world we live in.. And you will change... Almost every one I have ever spoke to has seen our world 100 % different even non believers..and you will to...... We need to open a million eyes... Then use 1,000,000 voices..... And slow down our deteriorating decline.. We can change it.. Knowledge is power. I am starting a Hub and I would like all to join and let me open your eyes....just ask me a theory you may have or be wondering about or do you want to learn more about something.. I'm here... To open eyes....even yours my friend rickrideshorses
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@tabari... its great that u read so many books and all that knowlege on u. im allways impressed when i see how much material, like books, webpages,articles,read ppls who belive in conspiracy theories... interesting how they use exactly the same words as u..(u are blid and def so u cant see and so on. how u guys know we/im blind and def..? if i dont belive in ur theory, thats mean im blind and def ?..or if i dont want to read those books or funny arcitles on web u read... coz there u can leran all that stuff u know and ur kind of ppls.
its not about if i/we belive or not, its about that u guys spreading that shit in wrong way.. causing panic about end of the world and soooo many stupid funny pathethic statements im hearing every day!!!
u talking about opening eyes and ears etc...o0? i think u should open ur eyes better and less reading books and those webpages and start to look about nice things going on on the earth every day around u.. and start to participate!! stop spreading that modern disease!
i have simple statement for u all... follow ur heart stop being pessimistic and stop reading wrong literature.
and 1 more important thing tabari ...today is easy to become slave of the seventh power(media) it is difficult to avoid the media..whereas in our desire for interest..therefore your brain easily washed
I never sad nothing about the end of the world see... And blind does not mean physical blindness... Also I am not a ear opener... I'm and eye opener... You don't need ears to see what is going on in this world..Sandu.. And who says I look to the Internet... Obviously you did not read anything I wrote... Which leads me to see that you are a negative closed minded person... And I have delt with plenty of people like you.... And you say you don't Believe in my theory?? I never gave any theory's... Anyone can have this knowledge it's not just me... I would like to know what don't you believe in? Many people do not believe in things... Seeing is believing.. When you see things and everything makes sense after a source is unearthed on why it is that way... And all things go to facts.... Isn't that the truth?? Whether you believe or not truth is truth right you just dont believe...and that's fine... But you should at least open your mind sit back.. Listen... ask a few questions on what you don't believe and see where it goes... See if your theology on why you think it is false and why you don't believe it... See if it compares with the vast many facts that would prove, show, and justify that the question you would ask would be misunderstood, wrong, and make absolutely no sense...that being said you would then see... If not then.. you are one who will never see.. But you will then now know lol and you will with in time after learning from your question.. That you failed to believe but you now see... So I ask sandu... What dont you believe?? And again... This I say to all... It's not what you believe in it's what they believe in....
As far as your comment on my gift of my knowledge... I do not sit in front of a television.. Or surf the web for crazy fanatic conspiracy theory's.... I do look and study what they feed the world... But see sandu when you see and you EYES ARE OPEN you already know what is being done.....and on your other comment this is what I am trying to do.... Reach out... Teach... Open eyes... move and motivate people... I do this and well... I have 350 signatures to attend a seminar in my city...... but it's not enough... The time is now....we need to come together... thanks.. And my hub in few weeks time should be Buzzing.... Hope you will join... But please just open your mind one time... Sandu... Give it a shot... Tell me what you do not believe.....Or anyone else
@Tabari
I read your article very quickly and it also stopped reading. Look what you intend to .. pick people and open their ears and eyes omg:))) on your website ... im still not sure why in first place did u join this debate here!?
the guy were talking about conspiracy theory.
tabari: (and you say you don't Believe in my theory?? I never gave any theory's..
yes u did.. ur first post was about iluminati and symbolism! im sure u have ur theory, which you mean to spread! otherwise u wouldnt be here..
eyes opener wtf man..?!?! my mother opened my eyes and ears soon after i was born:) teaching me about love about feelings.. how to love other cultures and so on.. if u would care about spreading love, would be much better for the world!! ur iluminati cant go over that;)
i questions for u.. and please be shorter and dont say that i will not understand what ur trying to say here.
1 in which way ur gonna open our eyes? do i need to give specific question? or u know just everything? i wont join ur webpage i would like to hear ur answer here
are you opening just eyes and ears .. or our all organs and senses? are we will become more intelligent and find our jobs more easily? or ur gonna just flares the ppls to go on the streets and fight the bad? im sure there is a tons of things we should change in ur opinion.
we didnt know anything about conspiracy theoies before stupid september 11 now u americans spreading that shit to europe.. but i will work with all my power that peoples around me wont belive in USA shit
Well first off conspiracy theory's been around for a long time.... Well before September 11 just so you know... I see you do not know much about what is going on and do not even understand let alone want to know what's going on...so good luck to you... Can I ask why do you even look at this site let alone comment if you do not believe.. Why waste your time?? And this isn't USA shit either... Lol it's the world we live in... And just so you know Europe was around long before America...and you other question really does not make much sense, because if you read what I wrote half of what you asked you would already have your answer... And opening eyes will open everything....everything in this world...and no it won't make you more intelligent to find a job.. Really? Sandu I don't know where you are from or what you have been taught but you are misguided...Misinformed... And may be misunderstood...But my guess is I'm probably right... I have stated before I have felt and talked to a fast number of people... All races all religions and all beliefs..as well as many attitudes. So I ask sandu what do you not believe???
@sandu I forgot to mention I blogged here sandu to understand why some do still not believe or see what this world is about... And to reach out and teach.... also to spread knowladge open eyes.... free knowladge... Free minds.... Ok... Lemme give you something that I see right now.... Sandu and any one else... I don't know where you are from and it does not matter... Thing are in place and those who see know what I am about say... Today is September 5th right... The terror alerts are going to be an all time high... Blown way out of perportion... Because it's the 10th anniversary.. Right... So the media is going to run threw the roof with this... Non stop... To keep our minds on that to mask what they will be putting in place... So this brings me to say.... My only guess is the move against Isreal...Watch this month how the heat turns up in this area... and I would not be surprised for something else big to happen this month just to cover up everyones eyes to see the move in Isreal.... Ok let's see. read this particular blog Nov. 1st and see if things are the same in that region Thanks.. I hope I am wrong... I still want you to let me know what you don't believe Sandu and anyone else..
Well Tabari, I have struggled through some of your incoherent ramblings. and I'm pretty sure the author of this hub is laughing at, and thanking you for your support.
From the spirit of your postings, one can only surmise that we must see things through YOUR eyes in order to understand the malevolent, esoteric machinations of this world. The amount of self importance you place upon yourself is astounding. You have just added many more layers of foil to the proverbial "tin foil hat".
You claim to have researched the occult for many years, yet you write like an excited child with a new toy. It looks like you claim some sort of belief in God, yet you fail to tie in, and apply, world events with prophecy.
Had you continued your readings before you started to post here (and who knows where else?), you would have discovered that these things are supposed to occur. You, as with the rest of who claim to have "eyes" and "ears", would understand that we are witnessing prophecy first hand. To try to change what is happening, even under the guise of informing others, places yourself at odds with God. I see nothing wrong with exposing conspiracies, as long as it is for information purposes that has the possibility to help the one(s) you're talking to.
What you're doing is bludgeoning people with shotgun text and messages. It's counter productive and not only makes you look like an escaped psychotic who's lost their meds, it paints those of us who can discuss these things with the same paint. No thank you.
Ranting and arguing about things you can do nothing about is Quixotic and undermines any sort of credibility you may have started out with.
In my mind, when I read your frantic, fragmented words, I see a person on a street corner wearing a sandwich sign, yelling at passerby's. You will dissuade everyone, persuade no one and turn many into the kind of person who authored this hub.
I believe you have much more to learn regarding the occult, conspiracies, the New Age and world management.
At this point, I believe I have no more to say on this hub. I'm undecided as to whether you hijacked this hub, or if you took the bait and ran with it.
Goering or Goebbels did not make this quote as some think.
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
If I were to say anything it'd be this. What people don't completely understand about "conspiracies" is that they are concurrent. They don't necessarily relate to one isolated incident in human history that has been tragic or strictin the public and human population with widespread panic. Some of the most insidious acts have been subtle. Slow and quiet. For instance the enabling act. Although it may seem insignificant to those that don't perfectly understand what it meant, it led to the rise of nazi germany and the deaths of millions of people. And I think that's what so called "conspiracy theorists" would like people to understand. It's not the blatant acts that get us debating. It's whats come out of those things. 9/11 was a turning point for all of us. But I didn't truly understand the implications until I learned about the reichstag fire. So if anything I wouldn't say dismiss conspiracy theories as absolute farce, but just do a little more research. You might find some things that may shock you.
After having read through every comment on this persons "hub" as it's called, there are a few realisations I have come to. I've focused on who I think contributed the most content to the debate:
I will start out by saying, the author, Rickrideshorses, spawned this debate after posting a contradictory opinion/article based on an emotionally bound ideological dispute with his peers. He demonstrates a lack of understanding and discernment for what others have to say in his following comments. My advice to Rick would be to reflect on why people, and himself, took such opinionated stances.
Tabari, I agree with your intentions and your dreams for humanity. I also believe I can see what you are trying to accomplish. What you are trying to say can be said in only a few words, and what you are trying to do is influence anothers choice. The latter is a waste of energy and seems to be counteracting what you are trying to accomplish, as it usually seems to. I must agree with Cicero Jones' thoughts on how you are trying to push your interpretations, which is fine if you're debating them, but you seem to have a longwinded demeanor which I can't see as beneficial to any discussions.
Sandu, you display ignorance and arrogance. I mean you no offense as I don't know you or your character at all, but the way you're talking to another person is rude, because you disagree as I see it. Also, you didn't answer Tabari's question, halting any purposeful debate, and asked questions of your own which were answered prior to the questioning. I suspect you of "trolling", or in other words; disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. Don't stall a debate by trying to add an opinion you have yet to formulate.
And Cicero Jones, the only issue I really take with you is on your judgement of Tabari. Though you've provided insightful words and lessons in regard to his preaching, you did so with a hostility fueled by either; disgust, disenchantment, disinterest, opposing stance etc. But frankly, it doesn't matter. Those are fine feelings to create discussion of a concept, but they are not excuses for spitting acidic words at another individual. It could have any number of negative impacts upon a life, ranging from negative feelings to negative actions, which ultimately further distances the intellectual debate.
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My stance on the subject of the Illuminati conspiracy... It seems apparent that regardless of what is true or false information in regards to the history has a very high probability of being tampered with. So how could anyone say for certain? Unless someone has been alive for thousands of human generations no one can say for certain, it's most likely a giant game of broken telephone.
In regard to any questionable world politics going on today, I would say there is a very good chance that most allegations, if not true themselves, represent a factual presence at work looking to benefit itself. It's undeniable that the majority of people now only worry about their own life and happiness, something out of embedded selfish nature. I believe the solution to this and any of the issues on our planet is through healthy communication. I think this "hub" is exemplary in portraying the lack of compassion when people engage eachother in their beliefs. Something that is far too counter-productive to condone. This entire discussion reminds me of a quote:
"It is better wither to be silent, or to say things of more value than silence. Sooner throw a pearl at hazard than an idle or useless word; and do not say a little in many words, but a great deal in a few."
- Pythagoras, Greek philospher, mathematician, and founder of Pythagoreanism.
My hope is that all who have participated in this discussion can read what I have to say, if I am unclear in anyway, ask, but I will only watch this article for a limited time.
I leave with a question to any; why take hostility?
Peace.
Your title says that the Illuminati is not real. and then you say "Yes, maybe their are some secret organisations like the Freemasons, the Illuminati or if you're in The Simpsons, the stone-cutters. But really, who cares about..."
I'm not stating whether I believe in these things or not, but...that is a bit discrediting.
I'm tired either way of these discussions. As a person that has in the past fervently believed in conspiracy theories, especially the illuminati, I've discovered one thing. Believers and non-believers will never agree. Just as a scientist and a preacher will never agree on how the earth was created.
I personally don't believe in the theories anymore. This because I understand that if you really search for it, you can always find "evidence" of some theory. There's always weird coincidences that tempt you to believe they're not a coincidence.
But I've concluded that in my everyday life, it doesn't really matter. I know all about the conspiracy theories, I keep myself informed, but then I simply lock it away and enjoy my day without thinking about it.
Compare conspiracy theories (I've really getting sick of writing those two words downs) to religions. You shouldn't force or try to convince someone to follow YOUR religion. Let everyone have choose their own, or none.
You obviously have not been informed enough about it, when you can put history, religion, and present day and the beliefs of the ones who without any doubt run this world and everything in it together and reach the same point and come to the same source that is absolutely no coincidence..History is not a theory.. You were informed and fell into the conspiracy theorist surface that is out there. My hub will be up soon and it goes beyond and shows truth and point of the same source and same beliefs..
haha it might work on the everyday dumb sheep. The ones who has really made an effort finding the occult information piss on your CRAP reporting : ) , somehow it got top result on google but guess that's another issue, you sukers have to take this to a new level, just dont pick one that has been leaked or are to easy to see so u get busted again : ) , fukers. And for the good guys, do your duty and wake sheeples up, atleast there is progress! Peace!
Again someone has wrote that they all sell their souls to the devil, come on are you's just religious freaks because if the devil was real and putting deals up like that then I peronsally say I would go for is deal to sell my soul and many others would be doing that. I guess relgion just really makes people shit scared of the devil, but when I think of the devil I just think of some funny dude with an evil mind but all is well, and if hell was real I'd challange the devil to a fight the for the controll of hell. This all sounds fucked up that I've just said, but this what the theroies seem to sound like imo.
You'll notice his contradictions are along the same line as "War brings peace" "Security creates freedom".. This is orwellian-speak.. and we are way past 1984. Brainwashing working at it's finest. Illuminati do exist.. occult at their origins and they have a history that predates anything you can imagine.
I just have one comment to make. Conspiracies DO happen. Historically one of the most famous is Caeser being killed where we get the famous quote, although possibly fake, "Et tu brutis"
I'm not saying all the theories now are true. I am just saying there is documented historical cases of conspiracies. Global conspiracies DO occur, but I doubt they have a club and an organization. I heard it best put that there are probably at least 20 global conspiracies going on right now, and they all are failing and succeeding at different rates probably foiled by eachother more then "us". I don't think they organize themselves, I think they operate this individually, because greed isn't co-operative. So how can they be greedy and co-operate. ONE of them will always want to rule the REST of THEM. Assuming "they" exist. Basically, Conspirators have been recognized all throughout history. That doesn't make all theories correct, it just means we should be open to questioning things.
Historically the Bavarian Illuminati DID exist, this cannot be disputed. They were ordered to be killed as a result of them being such a power conspiracy, perhaps just by perception of the people still in power. This was in the 1700's. Yes, I agree it's speculation to talk about them existing AFTER this point, but that doesn't change the fact that historically they DID exist as a ring of conspirators, among other things.
I think EVERYONE should think rationally. I treat conspiracy theories the EXACT same way I treat Fox news ;-) Interesting entertainment, but you have to dig for facts to be sure which are true or false. Both throw up some pretty cracked out theories from time to time ;-) But sometimes, both actually tell the truth ;-)
I just have one comment to make. Conspiracies DO happen. Historically one of the most famous is Caeser being killed where we get the famous quote, although possibly fake, "Et tu brutis"
I'm not saying all the theories now are true. I am just saying there is documented historical cases of conspiracies. Global conspiracies DO occur, but I doubt they have a club and an organization. I heard it best put that there are probably at least 20 global conspiracies going on right now, and they all are failing and succeeding at different rates probably foiled by eachother more then "us". I don't think they organize themselves, I think they operate this individually, because greed isn't co-operative. So how can they be greedy and co-operate. ONE of them will always want to rule the REST of THEM. Assuming "they" exist. Basically, Conspirators have been recognized all throughout history. That doesn't make all theories correct, it just means we should be open to questioning things.
Historically the Bavarian Illuminati DID exist, this cannot be disputed. They were ordered to be killed as a result of them being such a power conspiracy, perhaps just by perception of the people still in power. This was in the 1700's. Yes, I agree it's speculation to talk about them existing AFTER this point, but that doesn't change the fact that historically they DID exist as a ring of conspirators, among other things.
I think EVERYONE should think rationally. I treat conspiracy theories the EXACT same way I treat Fox news ;-) Interesting entertainment, but you have to dig for facts to be sure which are true or false. Both throw up some pretty cracked out theories from time to time ;-) But sometimes, both actually tell the truth ;-)
Sorry for the double post! please delete the duplicate!
I also wanted to say that a conspiracy, by definition, is a group of people trying to do something harmful in secret. By that definition 911 was a conspiracy with the official story. Osama bin laden created a conspiracy to attack the twin towers, among other targets, with airplanes. By definition, it was a secret plane, to cause harm. So going by the official 9/11 story and the official definition of conspiracy, then it was one. Who knows the details of what happened that day, but according to official story, there is no disputing a terrorist conspiracy ;-)
Some conspiracy theories are very true, some are not provable/disprovable, and others are very absurd. You claim that all conspiracy theories are false, so let me prove to you how wrong you are. Please keep in mind the actual definition of what a "conspiracy" really is. Here are some real conspiracies:
1. Wannsee Conference (a secret meeting at a secret location near Berlin, Germany, where powerful men in the government plotted the holocaust. what happened? 11 million people were systematically murdered)
2. Watergate (needs no explination)
3. MK-Ultra (declassified documents and an investigation led to information on this top secret CIA program that was shut down)
4. The Iran-Contra Affair (Reagan administration officials and President Reagan secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran)
5. Operation Ajax (overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States)
I can list several hundred more, but I think I made my point.
I believe that there are definitely an ultimate conspiracy connecting all conspiracies into an ultimate agenda for power. I just don't believe most of the illuminati propaganda. Simply put. Jay Z haven't sold more albums in his entire career until he became this demonic figure. My honest opinion. Sounds like just another hit product to sell because people is buying this crap like hotcakes. I can tag a video or topic "ILLUMINATI SECTRETS" and "PROOF THAT SUCH AND SUCH IS IN ILLUMINATI" and watch the numbers soar through the roof.
Half off you ignorant retards are sheep, its so obvious the government are corrupt.and if you think 9/11 was because of Muslim terrorist, you really are brain washed by the media.why are we still there?, they haven't found any weapons off mass destruction like they said they was.its called profit.
the facts are there pointing to a New World Order,and Globalization of government.It makes sense.These people use numerology,astrology and do rituals and sacrifices in order to have POWER.they control banks,government and media and are attempting to censor the internet as we speak.And they do it in the name of "protecting" us.But they are actually restricting us.They also control the education system so basically everything we've come to belief is challenged by this "Illuminati" theory.But I believe it,it scares the crap out of me,but I believe it is very possibly true.
Of course there are conspiracies, he was not denying that.
As you said, the reason to why so many are able to believe conspiracies theories where it's about secret brotherhoods and organisations and what not, controlling the world, I think is because they simply lack a lot of knowledge about the world itself, the history of it and understanding of the way of it and the people. The more isolated you are from the outside world, the easier it gets to feel convinced that they are true. I have a friend, who is overly convinced about most conspiracy theories, especially the ones he comes over aimed at his country and government. Somehow I can't blame him, as I know that he does not have that much experience with life and has never traveled outside his own country, and barely knows anything about any other country than his own. Another reason I know is also because he's lost touch with reality a bit, because he has been out of work for so long and spends almost all his time online, not seeing any friends or family. As most conspiracy believers, he believes that he is one of the few who knows the "truth" about certain things, he is very arrogant about his beliefs, and he looks down on everyone thinking that they are, as you mentioned, "sheep", and that they are blind to the truth, and that his intelligence is above most others. The only thing that bugs me when it comes to our relationship as friends is when he ever brings these theories up, asking me to "open" my mind, when really he is the one who is so caught up with his theories that he has closed himself in. Deep down I think that in his case this is result of issues with trust. I people should stop looking down at the world and start to learn and live inside it instead. Everything is not a conspiracy... /Lila
One of the most powerful tools that these groups of the order use are the gullability of the people. They look at us as sheep. Most people think this could never happening and that is what helps the illuminated keep things from boiling over. They are so quick to call everyone who says something about it a Conspiracy theorist and write it off at that.
We just need to understand that just as GOD is real, his former number 2 angle evil is real and he is using these groups such as the illuminati to reach his goal of controlling the earth with a one world government, giving darkness power over the light.
So all good these days equals evil to you theorists? You probably believe Obama is a reptile too. In that context, Jesus was part of the Occult.
This article is completely false. I am a fully educated, normal working guy with a Masters in Economics and with accounting background. The government lied once, that means they lie all the time. Iraq had WMD. So simple, yet so huge. There is something going on, I studied the flow of the money supply, the use of central banking, the food industry, the enslavement of humans using debt. Just because you seem to be happy with this life doesn't mean that all is well. We are not shown or told anything that goes on in the world. We have no idea what happens in other countries because you are not shown. Trillions in tax dollars are spent and lost.
It's funny when people criticize conspiracy theorists saying things like they are all idiots, they are all wrong, 911 just happened, when there are so many scholars and studies, and analysis proving that it is completely implausible any other explanation is right. The things and evidence we should know simply is not disseminated to the public. It stays on youtube, and hence remains discredited. If it was truly a bunch of bullshit, then it's entertaining bullshit and you can be sure our media knows how to feed us entertainment, not actually news. But if they planted these ideas in the mind of the public, then you can be sure a few people might actually question what is happening, why did it happen, why did they lie, why are we not doing this, why don't we see this, why congress and evidence corporations planned pipelines in Iraq before 911, why buildings fell in a perfect demolition pattern, why?? Things don't just happen you fool. Natural disasters maybe, but I can assure you the economic complexity of the world is exactly why things do happen.
Nobody questions what is actually happening because we are granted a nice existence that keeps us happy and shuts us up. We are not shown the struggles in the world, nor are we shown how these superelite profit immensely from economic turmoil that wipes out societies, pensions, and lives. We get a blip of news, then we are appeased and it's enough. Well our media has shown us one thing bad! So we do know. We don't. Don't be a fool.
If people actually started thinking for themselves and questioning our governments, then they would have a problem. We as a people are completely complacent, and it works very well that way.
Lastly, I don't dare start to tell you that the incentives for all the calamity, the economic collapse, business cycles, invasions in middle east, the European debt crisis, all of that has very little to do with the actual economy. It all has to do with debt and monetary policy. In short, money has no value, and central banks keep us and our governments by the balls because they make the only way for us to survive, and governments, by getting into debt. All the invaded countries in the middle east had their own monetary system. And the money was actually worth something, backed by physical assets. Now money funneled through central banks is created out of nothing. But somehow we need it to survive, then we live our whole lives to pay interest on something that didnt ever exist. The the private owners of the central banks, use this fake valued trading good (money), to live freely in a world with no money.
Open your eyes people. Our existence is good, yes. We live and eat comfortably. But what is happening is not a short-term thing in our lifetime. It's long-term enslavement. We are all slaves to debt. We are not even able to go to court and contest a parking ticket, yet alone go to the government discussions in congress/parliament, have a voice on law, and corporate policy, and environmental protection, nothing. Why? BEcause we must go to work otherwise we wont' get paid and will be screwed because we might get a back credit rating. Open your eyes and your minds.
I agree with some points you make in this article Rick. Although it seems you have something against those, who may seek the truth of the planet we all live on. To write an article that states why conspiracys are not real, by using a small psychological profile on an extreme few. Also you have tried to lump all conspiracys together, and explain why they are not real with no direct example or facts. It should not be hard to understand, that there are a few (compared to the whole population) that seek to selfishly benefit themselves on the backs of the rest. There are many instances of this , that can be proven as fact, throughout all of history until this very day. Bayer knowinling sending HIV tainted medicine into other country's so not to lose profit, the dumping of toxic waste into our environment, and many more. This is not a conspiracy, but the selfish greed of those that wish to control and manipulate. The reason I believe this to be, is they(those selfish few) take the populations silence as consent. I think it is very easy to point out the many problems in our society, and come to solutions that can altogether end those problems. Though as long as we hold these arbitrary divisions amongst ourselves, they will continue to manipulate & control us all.
Here's some recommend reading and film:
Ralph Waldo Trine: The Higher Powers of Mind and Spirit
Noam Chomsky: Manafacturing Consent
Howard Zinn: A people's History of United States
Allan Watts: The Book
Eric Fromm: To Have or to Be
Films
Strive
The zeitgeist
Forks over knives
Who killed the electric car
Peak oil
This is only a brief list they can open anyone's eyes to the atrocitys that have gone on and continue to do so so. Those conspiracy theorist the "intelligent ones" are right in saying those must open their eyes and wake up. When this occurs we will all be better off as a people, a nation, a loving community, and most importantly as interconnected individuals.
Thank you Rick for this article you have written and your insights as a fellow American I truly appreciate it.
Love,Life & Light,
David E.
A good place to start to open Your mind to the truth. Ask Yourself why tower 7 that did NOT get hit by planes or anything else just collapsed. Just remember when You see the thruth, there is no turning back..
Uhhh...Did this blogger just compare a Tsunami to 9-11? First mistake. 9-11 was planned by people, murdering, deviant people. It was engineered for a reason, actually a whole list of reasons, pretext for war, to create laws based on fear, to create enemies that we never had before to justify more war, to loot any country they occupy, and on, and on, and on. There are MANY reasons for 9-11 that benefit people and corporations connected to government, and the world banking power-houses that have ALWAYS attempted to gain control of America. Andrew Jackson knew the deal, and George Washington spoke of the Illuminati in a letter, admitting he knew of their existence. Basically, its about taking a real look at history, our history and the worlds history, not in the American text books, but everywhere but those text books. WINNERS OF WARS WRITE HISTORY, not the losers. Do you think the winners always tell the truth about the events that took place? If you do, you are wrong.
Ok, It can be proven that the most powerful man in this country in the past and the present were in is apart of a group or click that tradicationally believes in worshopping the devil, PERIOD. this can be proven. so any person should start from this aspect of their attempting to have an open mind.
I'm going to start this comment by saying that so far this was a very educational read, in terms of seeing how the people that have commented on this interact with each other. Why the hostility? Why the indirect judgement? Why the harsh vocabulary from some of you? From one side, I see the people who believe that conspiracy theories aren't the truth. On the other side of the flip, I see people who believe otherwise. Both parties asserting that their point of view/opinion is correct. I see "truth-seekers" and "skeptics" bashing at each other. We are human right? We are supposed to be one correct? We all know that to some extent the world that we live in is corrupt, driven by greed, which is in all of us. W ether these acts of corruption were orchestrated by the "Illuminati" or not matters less. A great amount of people that live in The United States lead a comfortable life, I don't know much about Europe but I believe I can say the same for it. There are those that live in these "superpower" countries that are going through tough times, most of those people are classed into the low or middle class. The middle class being that which is the most prominent in The United States. We live in a world where apparently the Average Joe claims to want equality, peace, prosperity, etc. But rather than work towards that common goal, I just see hostility. Why are people struggling to live and some aren't? Aren't we equal? Is money the problem? Why do we give so much value to a piece of fiber? Is it because without it it we can't attain what we want? Why do some value a Dollar Note over a human life? Because we work for it and it's ours? Isn't that greed? Why not love each other and make sure that we as a people are protected? At the end of the day, we all want the best for our families, to put the food on the table and what not. We, everyone of you including me, we are the family. On the subject of greed, considering that a great amount of us are very greedy people but like to think otherwise. What makes you think that the people in charge are less greedy than you? When in poor neighborhoods people would kill for $5, why wouldn't the rich kill a couple of people for a bit of money? Anything to make more cash, the more money you have, the more your expenses, the more you have, the more you want. Yes, wars have been staged just to preserve or gain profits. Yes, wars ARE CONTINUALLY staged to preserve or gain profit. Yes, the media brainwashes you and tells you what they want, the same way that you tell people what you want. Was 9/11 an inside job, maybe. Will something catastrophic happen on December, 21 of 2012, we don't know. It would be great if the Government actually stepped up in the public spotlight to discuss these issues but they don't. Reasons for that? You and I don't know. Most of us humans have this thing that we refuse to see "theories" or "prophecies" until they actually happen, and then it's too late. The reality is that none of us know what's going to happen or what's really going on. Most of us can agree though, that this Government is fucked up and cares less for it's people and most of the moves they pull are to benefit themselves, we get the scraps. Unite as one, without us, they are nothing. United we stand, divided we fall. If you're going to bash on me, go right ahead, if you're going to say anything negative towards me, go right ahead. It won't make a difference really.
your a real idiot. ALL HUMANS ARE BEING CONTROLLED! start by reading freedom is more than a seven letter word. try to understand how law religion and money has taken our touch away from reality. Then try to understand our mss mind enslavment and controll. Look at the pure bloodlines of leaders. Loo kat the actual evidnece THAT 9 11 WAS NOT AN ATTACK. There is so much to teach in such a little box. You muct beleive that you are free and through media and EVERYTHING AROUND US we are being controlled. over over again humans will make the same mistakes. look to god for help (or satan) and find nothing. We are our own gods... the leaders of our world cannot have us knowing our true potential. If you can try open your mind to the unimaginable you will find the truth. And once you get there it makes sense. OPEN YOUR MINDS. start with a bit of quantum physics to warm you up then jump into illuminati. The world is a very different place to what we have been taught. Be open,be free!
illuminati theorists can believe whatever they want. but why do they become so obssessed?? I think they are just too lazy to work on being successful and continue to blame these cults for there failures. There is no reason that you can't just find a nice job, raise a family, and be happy. These theorists are literally so far into there imagination that it should be considered a mental illness.
Reading some of these comments really proves how out there people are. I think there is a lot more to be heard by the people in relation to the 9/11 incident. But people causing hurricanes and tsunamis... Those didnt just start happening as the cause of burning fossil fuels and other pollutants to the world, they were just as much around when people were wearing bear claws for shoes and beating animals to death with stcks to eat dinner. Peoples ignorance and stubborness is a disease in this country and from personal experience it seems that majority of conspiracy theorist suffer from it, along with having a lack of any knowledge of things in general. The media controls people? In a way i suppose, for example comercials are made to get people to buy a product which you could say is "mind control" but there not displaying a subliminal message for mass suicide. The worst part is that you people talk all this shit about conspiracys and the governments out to get you, the media, your phones being tapped, ect. Let me clue you in on something you might forget to think anout because of your wasted time of reading garbage on the internet. you live in this country, which means you pay taxes so your funding all this crazy shit you thinks going on ill bet $1000 that you watch tv every day and ill put another grand down that you have a cell phone. If you dont like the way things are go live in the woods.Btw society it self was built on principles of law, religion and money maybe youve been takin away from reality.
I used to think exactly like you until I began to research wtc7 and my entire world of beliefs changed. That particular building came down perfectly with the aid of explosives. There is no doubts about it whatsoever. It would be wise of you to take a step back and reframe.
I have always found it ironic how conspiracy theorists are actually the brainwashed ones, only they've done it to themselves by spending too much time on kooky websites and listening to idiots like David Icke. They enchant themselves with this stuff because as you say, they don't trust life, and they are keen to find someone to blame. Who better than the rich and famous right?
But not only does it give them someone to blame, it also makes them feel better about life itself. Conspiracy theorists I've noticed are typically on the 'losing' side of society (financially, socially, politically). By blaming the worlds problems on some kind of unknown satanic secret agenda, they have 'excuse' as to why they are underachievers. Also, and this is the sad part, believing in this nonsense fills them with the idea that they are "in the know", they are the smart ones, and everyone else is a sheep that listens to whatever the media tells them.
Here is my own (anti) conspiracy theory website if interested : ItWasTyped.com
Straight to the point, all a load of rubbish.
Just so everyone knows I’ve done some "research", which as many of you would have done, through YouTube and Google....lol. This as we all know is the most accurate method of gaining information. Would like to start by saying i dont pretend to know all, and im not able to disprove all concepts of this theory. BUT a lot of it, with some SENSE you can see through it.
New world order, going to control world, eg 195 countries (US State Department), with as of today a world population of 7,004,110,246 people. Ok, you have terrorist states, communism and fun loving countries such as Russia. How do you propose that these countries will actually succumb to this new world order? Your right they wouldn’t, so i take it there is going to be world war three soon as well to insure the sheeple listen to their rulers. Ow and I’m sure the people of Africa will be more than willing, cause let’s face it, there would be propaganda which states the colonies are taking over again. Which would end in the whole continent going through civil war, much the same with many on the American continent.
Look at what their saying, it’s bleeding obvious that some countries, states or terrotries are going to join together to improve themselves economically. Europe and the USA are prime examples of this. I heard someone say the USA will join Canada and Mexico and make the Amero. What you mean like Europe and the Eurozone? The USA,Canada and Mexico may well in the future decide to do this, but at no point does it scream the illuminate, it screams we are in trouble from the BRIC economies which are going to make us less of a superpower.
Music industry- laughable at best. I like many others have seen Rihanna spray water in the shape of a triangle and bend over as the shape of the devil. I have seen the rappers music video’s where they say the Illuminati. At the end of the day if these people are trying to tell us, why don’t they tell us? If they feel so strongly that the Illuminati are real, why don’t they come on TV and say it, instead of telling me through one of their music videos. OWWW because they aren’t really trying to tell me anything about the Illuminati. WAIT THOUGH, they might be scared to come on TV to tell me this, but the rulers allow them to sing about it to the sheeple.
I haven’t covered this in as much detail as I wanted . But when you’re watching/ reading the information, notice how they just throw things in there which when together look omg looks so real, but when separated looks nothing to do with it. Some may say that’s how the rulers may want it, or that because separated u can see its all baloney. Like Rihanna bending over in the shape of a devil, when looking at it like a sheeple u see her dancing, but when your youtube master u can see that if you draw her imagine, its looks like the devil….a bit.
It's bloggers like this that keep everyone nice and asleep. You know if you would actually do the research, you might see that things are not quite what they seem, and indeed you must have an opened mind WHEN you read. If you go into the material with a mindset of, "Oh this is all bullshit", you will come out of the material with the same, preconception. Why? Because you already decided NOT to believe it. You programmed yourself NOT to believe. That is how powerful our minds are.
http://forum.davidicke.com/index.php
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_ill
The David Icke forums at the other site I mentioned are good starting places. At least read the information and make an informed decision. Do not automatically assume it is all false.
Rick,
please tell me why every artist uses symbolism? Tell me why they only want to talk about money and sex?
Tell me why a (almost all?) dollar bills can be folded in a way which represents 9-11?
At the moment, 'they' are laughing at you right now. Not everyone is as dumb as you, the REALLY SMART people know how to manipulate you.
to believe in something so deeply with very little or no evidence other then word of mouth is what is wrong with the world... The media and religion are
huge examples of this. hopefully one day we will evolve beyond distrust and develop and better understanding of eachother. This all seems silly people are born and die every day life goes on with no script or control
everyone here needs to get awakened learn about the law of attraction learn how you can create your own reality this is true that you can. we must learn these things peeps its the time of awakening 2012 get wit it
ive read about this illuminati theory and i respect
their views but at the same time they say things that in my opinion dont make sence why would the devil give anybody money and power for their souls if its ovious that theyre greedy and are going to hell anyways
The word "Illuminati" really refers to those people on or off our planet who are spiritually illumined. Their minds are more advanced than the average person, who will eventually also become illumined. This word has been used, in error, to put a label on something we are afraid of, by ignorant people, who believe there can only be one illumined person, and that is the Christian Jesus and God, every other "illumined" one is therefor an imposter and is most likely a "satan" creation. We are all at different levels of illumination.
There are many sick people on our planet who are just greedy for money, power and to possess all they can, no matter what the cost to others. These are the people who are ganging up to control everything and they fight amongst themselves in the form of world wars to get what they want. They are ruthless and powerful, but also stupid, and definitely do not fall in the "Illumined" box. So please do not give them this much credit. They are no more than low evolved humans who think they are in power. Their day will come, there are many of these types we come across in our daily lives and their goals are always to take over the bosses position or whatever will make them think that others will think that they are such marvelous and strong people. We even push our children to be ruthless like them so they can be in high positions and make lots of money and so have lots of material wealth. Poor little ones playing war games. To conquer them, don't support them.., but we do because they have driven us apart by propaganda and our own greed.
I hate illuminati cause they want to own the world but i dont think this can be succesed.
Haven't been here for a wile... Wow some great comments... Can't wait to respond
take your heads out from the sand ostrich's. or leave it there forever more.
Wow, look at all the conspiracy theorists. They have no evidence to back up their claims and instead call the author hypocritical because they can't provide evidence to disprove him. You are all pitiful human beings who need to get a realistic view of the world. There is no Illuminati, there no New World Order nor will ever be one, 9/11 was not an inside job, and JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald and no one else. Though it is not surprising to see that many of you are paranoid Americans who are so distrustful of everyone and everything. There is a reason why a majority of the world hates you - and no doubt! If you're so paranoid and blind to the real truth that you claim to fight for.
All of you spend all your lives behind a computer. Turn off the Internet and go outside and do some real research. Otherwise, us sane people will hate you forever more.
9/11 "Truth" has been debunked.
JFK "patsy" has been debunked
Chances of a NWO are impossible. Whatever makes you think polar opposite governments would ever get along?
Do some REAL research, not research from conspiracy sites, books, or movies. Ironically, you are the sheeple that you call us skeptics. You believe in this religion. You believe everything you read. You are nothing but spoilt brats who know nothing of the real world. Not one of you offered any credible evidence that supports your claims. That said, none of you are scientists or truthworthy people.
I think I'll just go relax and go back to sleep, because obiviously you are all awake and enlightened.
there is evidence in everyday media. Look at the lyrics too rap songs. All it talks about it new world order. Also, when Obama says "Yes we can". If you play those 3 words in reverse(you can do this on your iphones). It says "Thank you Satan." We already are being brainwashed. Also, the Illuminati says that they are going to reduce American population by 100 million by the year 2050. Is it a coincidence that about 100,000,000 students were require to get a Tdap shot in their arms before they could continue on with their education. We need too stand up and save ourselves.
@Jeremy Linski Your information is what I actually believe may be true I've been researching all kinds of stuff from The Music Industry to Hollywood and what they are doing to brainwash citizens and it can't be a coincidence. I've heard they are trying to reduce our populace because they want to bring our development history back to the past.
It isn't weird that a group of old rich men would conspire together to make more money and especially more power. Also their are plans for world government one the dollar crashes which is the reserve currency of the world and backs almost every currency. When the US collapses the world collapses and say hello to world government
How is it a "secret society" if people know about it?
"But it's vitally important to remember conspiracy theories are just that - theories. There is no evidence to prove they are true."
That is blatantly false. The evidence is right in front of you. You just have to be willing to find it.
"Leading Scientists around the world rubbished the 2012 myths."
Irrelevant. The world isn't going to come to an end because of scientific reasons in 2012.
"Yes, maybe their are some secret organisations like the Freemasons, the illuminati or if you're in the Simpsons, the stone-cutters."
Contradicting yourself and backpedaling. So you're admitting that there might be some secret societies like the Freemasons (which absolutely exist) and the illuminati (who don't generally go by that name anymore but also exist) when the very point of your article is prove that they definitely don't exist.
"But really, who cares about a bunch a rich, bloated, middle aged men in a boy's club with silly secret handshakes talking about their plans for world domination."
Everyone should care! ESPECIALLY when those "middle aged men in a boy's club" are the men who own and control the world banks, the media, and monopolize and control the US Government because of it's dependence on the Federal Reserve (which is also owned by those middle aged men in a boy's club).
"And undoubtedly, there are corrupt businessman and politicians who collude to help each other out and cover things up."
Congratulations for pointing out one of the reasons they are successful and their plans
continue.
There are many other things I could have pointed out and disproven in this ignorant, poorly written, and grammatically incorrect article. But frankly that'd be a waste of my time. To those who know and seek the truth, take solace in the fact that free humanity rises. As the great Charlie Chapman once said "Do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed. The bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass. And the power they took from the people, will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish." And please don't give me that bullshit that Charlie Chapman was a communist or a socialist. Those were lies spread by the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover (who was a Freemason of the 33rd degree by the way).
"But it's vitally important to remember conspiracy theories are just that - theories. There is no evidence to prove they are true."
That is blatantly false. The evidence is right in front of you. You just have to be willing to find it.
"Leading Scientists around the world rubbished the 2012 myths."
Irrelevant. The world isn't going to come to an end because of scientific reasons in 2012.
"Yes, maybe their are some secret organisations like the Freemasons, the illuminati or if you're in the Simpsons, the stone-cutters."
Contradicting yourself and backpedaling. So you're admitting that there might be some secret societies like the Freemasons (which absolutely exist) and the illuminati (who don't generally go by that name anymore but also exist) when the very point of your article is prove that they definitely don't exist.
"But really, who cares about a bunch a rich, bloated, middle aged men in a boy's club with silly secret handshakes talking about their plans for world domination."
Everyone should care! ESPECIALLY when those "middle aged men in a boy's club" are the men who own and control the world banks, the media, and monopolize and control the US Government because of it's dependence on the Federal Reserve (which is also owned by those middle aged men in a boy's club).
"And undoubtedly, there are corrupt businessman and politicians who collude to help each other out and cover things up."
Congratulations for pointing out one of the reasons they are successful and their plans
continue.
There are many other things I could have pointed out and disproven in this ignorant, poorly written, and grammatically incorrect article. But frankly that'd be a waste of my time. To those who know and seek the truth, take solace in the fact that free humanity rises. As the great Charlie Chapman once said "Do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed. The bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass. And the power they took from the people, will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish." And please don't give me that bullshit that Charlie Chapman was a communist or a socialist. Those were lies spread by the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover (who was a Freemason of the 33rd degree by the way).
I dont believe in conspiracy theories. An earlier poster said that CT deniers have a closed mind and don't want to see the truth. I have two issues with this. Firstly, I would LOVE it if some of these theories turned out to be true. It would be the biggest thing ever. I want to believe, I just don't. Second, conspiracy theorists are so sure of themselves. For a time, I was quite interested in the 9-11 conspiracy theories. I wanted to discuss the possibilities that these things happened. But other people didn't want to discuss possibilities. To them it was just fact. It's always fact. And conspiracy theorists call others closed minded. The hypocrasy there is huge. To be open minded, conspiracy theorists need to consider the possibility that their theories have no basis in fact. Impossible for them.
And WHY the f*** do the people who are at the top of society leave so many f*****g clues everywhere? Oblique, cryptic clues that immediately get pounced on by theorists. And yet those at the top still do it? But they are SOOOO clever. I laughed my head off when I read above that Obama is part of the illuminati and they have PROOF of this because "Yes we can" played BACKWARD is "Thank you Satan"! If they are somehow being managed by Satan, why would they BOTHER to thank him like that? And be caught because despite being the rulers of the world, managed by SATAN, they should KNOW that any theorist worth their salt would play something backward. And Satan's ego is SO huge that he HAS to be thanked PUBLICLY in secret?! We are taking Satan literally aren't we? I mean, we aren't even questionning whether Satan even exists? Or is that fact too?
The whole thing is hilarious and gives me a lot of pleasure. God bless conspiracy theorists. They cheer me up.
to the poster above:
clues are left behind as a sign of mockery towards people.
Think of it like writing a masterpiece of an essay and having the sense of accomplishment at the end of the essay where you sign your name and tell people "yup, this is my work, recognize it"
TL;DR
If it were all so secret, and they were so powerful, and it were TRUE, then:
- Jay Z would have probably been assassinated a while ago for openly 'admitting' to be part of it.
- Why would it have taken them so long to complete their plan of world domination?
- Why would they allow the media to become so blatantly corrupt, hated and false?
- Why hide? Everyone apparently knows about it already, there's no point in hiding...
I f*****g hate conspiracy theories.
Red or Blue pill you decide. I guess those of us that are being labeled here as conspiracy theorist just decided to take the red pill to see how far that rabit hole really goes and it's pretty darn frightening the truth.
hmmm where to start. alot of people here are on the rite track and they will find the truth, but u cannot blindly believe everything.
i did my bible studies as a child, but am not religous.
many many accounts have been proven factual and phophecies fulfilled, however many texts have also been perverted and mis translated also. and one must realise this, missings books (enoch etc).
these secret societys stem from the same time as the bible, and are the origional tainters.Steve Quayle has some good info on this.
many freemasons think their brotherhood is a christian society, but infact what they practice is the mystery babylon religion, which includes rituals, black magic, blood sacrfices, and pagan worship. if a fellow mason even mentions christ he will not progess any further. a good source for this is bill cooper's mystery babylon series of 34 hours starting from nebuchanizzar. this man payed the ultimate price for sharing his knowlege.
the illuminati is real and is about preseving their pure bloodline. they are not christians, but claim to be.
im not saying believe in christ. what im saying is they pervet the teachings, this is why its referred to as satanic. a good video on their rituals is alex jones infiltrating bohemian grove.
they put the evidence in plain sight to de-sensitise people, and also blow their own trumpet.
did u knw over 3/4 of usa's presidents were freemasons? and related.
about that jkf and oswald statement. his assination was done directly after he announced to investige the fed. and private corporates. it was done publicly as a statement to others, didnt his brothers get murdered also ater trying to continue his work?
gimmy carter has a good speech where he admits the government has lost control and prite corps have taken over, this was in the 1950's i believe.
As for the 'theories' i quite like the reptillian agenda one, watch phil schnider's videos, where 2wks after it was filmed he 'committed suicide' using no.8 wire!
i dnt knw about u guys but i would not strangle myself with wire if i was gona commit suicide.
also research buddism and other religions the nagas etc, serpent men have long been in our history since eve was decieved. also look into sacred underground caves, where scores of people go missing. a whole class of students dissapeared witout a trace, and insted of searching for them the government dynamited the cave. i forget its name but if u look u will find it
did u knw obama is a skull and bones society member, just like bush and bush snr. his presidency was predicted by leo zagami in 2005 (ex-illuminati)
I agree with a lot of this. I, myself used to be one of these hardcore conspiracy theorists. Every tragedy and major event that happened I always thought, "ILLUMINATI ILLUMINATI!" People! While the Illuminati may be real, they do NOT control EVERY SINGLE event that happens on Earth. Tragedies happen, it's how it goes. Maybe 9/11 was a cover-up, maybe AIDS really is a depopulation scheme, but not EVERYTHING is a scheme made up just to ruin your lives. I think conspiracy theorists are open minded, but not to what they don't want to hear, while that may actually be the truth. Simply put.... Don't live your life in fear.
I'd say that main point in article makes a lot of sense, and that is - people blame everything else for their own lives. Conspiracies of any kind some are true some are over-exaggerated or simple BS. In my opinion the only problem is that sheeple keep living their lives believing they're helpless or hopeless, that nothing can be changed and keep moaning and feeling sorry for themselves. The fact is we decide to either helpless or do something about our lives, thing we want to achieve or change. No one can control your mind and everybody has a chance to decide what to do next. Doesn't matter you either fail or succeed, you just have to keep going for what you want deep down inside and I believe in the end we all want the same thing, decent human living, fellowship and growing towards common and greater good on this planet. After all, we all want luxury, safety, friends and families and freedom to fully enjoy our lives. So just decide and do something about it everyday, the more the merrier.
The Illuminati are real, but they are very misunderstood. Most people associate the Illuminati with the Old World Order, the dynastic families that oppress and manipulate this Earth. The Illuminati seek to free humanity from them. You can learn more about them from their books "The Last Bling King", "The God Factory", "Armageddon Conspiracy", and the soon to come out "The Soul Camera". Also check out their website: ArmageddonConspiracy.co.uk.
You got it twisted brother. If your a believer of God, and I hope you are, its in there. The NWO has been in exixtance long before our time. Conspiracy, thats what they want people to believe and sadly many souls will be lost. Instead of listening to God and reading the word which is what our father in heaven has provided us as a guide to live a holy life and make it to heaven, they will be sidetracked by listening to the media, people like you and false prophets with information that (looks like, sounds like the truth when in fact IT IS NOT......
The links below may help you understand the real world... what is and what is not... The NWO controls all and a one world government has been their plan for many many years ago. The Masons... are real....... get it straight........ GOD BLESS....
Yea, i think you are completely silly and naive.
I believe what God, the Creator of the Universe, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says. He says absolutely everything happens for a reason and all things work for His purpose. So you are 100% wrong saying 'things just happen.' Giant, cataclysmic events like tsunamis and 9-11 do NOT just happen according to the God who created you and created me. There are hundreds of different reasons these kinds of things happen.
There is a spiritual realm or dimension (which is made up of several types of realms or 'heavens' where God and His angels and satan and His angels exist.) Satan came into power over mankind when he decieved Adam and Eve in the garden. So, here again, you are 100% wrong that an evil force is not running the entire world. It is called satan and he runs this place, with the help of his billions of fallen angels(demons). Jesus reffered to this world as satan's kingdom and that mankind is under satan's control. Jesus said that. Not me.
And the reason most of these conspiracy theories are labeled theories and pitched the masses as whacky is to keep you asleep and numb. I'd say a good 95% of these are true.
There is a very select few that run the world. They are luciferian, meaning, they worship lucifer, or satan. But they believe satan is the good guy and God is bad. They believe lucifer will win in the end and deliver humanity from the wrath of God.
You are free to believe what you want. God gave that gift to all of us: free will to choose. You chose to express your view. I choose to express the truth. You claim there is no truth (meaning, you claim there is no rhyme or reason, things just happen.) That means you do not believe in absolute truth. You will argue and say I;m twisting your words so I'll illustrate my logic with an example:
you say there is no rhyme or reason, things just happen, no evil force influencing anything. If not, then evil does not exsist. So, with that thought, lets say I take a gun and shoot you in the head. No one should get mad because things just happen. There is no evil.
That;s my point. I know you will have a million rebuttals to that but there is absolute Truth(Jesus) and absolute evil(satan).
And, again, you are wrong: every single soul that ever walked this earth will one day know the absolute truth behind every conspiracy, every lie, every event, every single minute last passing thought that everyone else who ever lived has said or done or thought. It's called Judgement Day. We'll all be there whether we believe it or not. I pray the Lord reveals Himself and His Salvation through His Son to you, my friend, and to all.
When thing I hate about conspiracy theorists is they are SO negative.
I personally believe their are conspiracies and have witness them but they are usually on a small level like a town or a business that's greedy and wants more money but that only describes THAT particular establishment.
It just makes you feel negative even thinking about it.
Nate you are a complete idiot!
If God was real he would NOT allow 9-11 to happen.
I have read the bible and it for word-to-word contradicts itself on every level such as Jesus saying be slow to anger yet the first thing he did was overthrow the tables in that Temple.
Is that not a direct hypocrite or not?
Pride is the biggest problem of mankind.
He (God) would do something like make the engines fail and we would hear about two airplanes crashing in New York City to save so many lives.
Sure some people would be hurt during the crash landing but ti would be FAR LESS loss then the WTC.
We also likely not have gone to war as this/that would've been labeled pilot error.
HOWEVER my heart is not closed to an idea of a God existing but your idea of a robed figure in the sky who claims he loves people but puts those he hates in a pit of fire is unethical at best.
Unconditional love means unconditional love and it sickens me to see justice go down the tubes like that.
I almost want to get revenge on revenge and have to calm myself down at the worlds injustices.
I would love to tell you more but I don't want to say inappropriate things and be part of the negative conspiracy groups or atheists that like to bash Christians because of whatever anger they are harboring they are too proud to admit.
I was so angry at your comment Mat that I didn't make my sentence very clear and I am sorry.
I meant to say if God were real he would NOT allow 9-11 to happen and do something like make the airplane engines fail forcing the pilots in charge to do a crash landing.
While people may still be killed due to free will laws the death count would be FAR less on-the-street then all
those innocent people with families who died and we would never have gone to a war that was a waste of time at best with a stupid ass Congress passing stupid ass laws.
We wouldn't have the Homeland Security taking charge of the airports with their animalistic trainers who will make fun of you or *rough you up* if you give the slightest protest to a body pat that only gives the illusion of safety.
The whole 9-11 incident would likely be chalked up to mechanical error.
God has given us brain to think.....so think on it..the world as we see it is not real or we would not think the way we do.let me tell u, the illuminati want us to deny their existence.....remember that, and they program u.
See, note how the believers in the Illuminati do not know how to spell correctly. Does this trend mean something? I believe so.
@Miguel
Funny, but the illuminati are all too real. Watch the videos "Larry McDonald - New World Order" and "The Shah of Iran exposes the Illuminati" on YouTube and then tell me that the illuminati or something like the illuminati don't exist.
Your opening gambit in this whole article leads you into problems. As you use a reference to Richard Dawkins, I will speak to you in THAT language. If it is ONLY scientifically possible to DISPROVE rather than to PROVE things, you, yourself fall afoul of your own logic in the first paragraph because your article seeks to DISPROVE conspiracy theory.
Conspiracies are a fact. Those you can identify prove my rule. Those that you are UNSURE may be a conspiracy are UNABLE to be DISPROVED as much as they cannot be PROVED. So you, and those who support your thesis are similarly deluded (and lack true courage, I might add. Probably because they are lost in their own matrix.).
Another flaw is that you seek to use pop psychology of what constitutes a "control freak", and then presume somehow that this is a "bad thing" because apparently you (the author) have no such mental aberrations good or bad. But being "in control" is presumably bad according to you.
Furthermore, you use numerous logical and semantic fallacies in order to make your points.
see. http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/fallacies_list.html
E.G. Hasty Generalization (Dicto Simpliciter, also called “Jumping to Conclusions,” "Converse Accident") .... by Assuming that all Conspiracy Theorists believe in Nibiru. AND that the world is to end because of Nibiru. ...
E.G. Circular Reasoning (closely related to begging the question) ... in aAssuming without foundation that Control Freaks are a "bad thing". And that those selfsame Conspiracy theorists always "Blame Others" ... This is Argumentum ad Populum (Snob approach - sub-category) AND Abusive, AND Circumstantial sub-categories).
E.G. Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc (Literally: "After this, therefore because of this"): You then go on to argue that "BECAUSE" the world MAY not end in 2012, that goes somehow to PROVE that all conspiracy theorists are "Control freaks".
... With the FURTHER flawed rationalization that those conspiracy theorists who believe in nibiru AND that the world will end are ALL in the same category of "psychologically aberrated individuals who think that elites are controlling their milk".
.... Look.... , I could go on. But your arguments are so flawed I could drive a truck through them
Just so you know. I am a conspiracy theorist and a partial control freak. I am so because --
(a) Those who do not use their intellect to seek a rational cause for bad things, including bad occurrences, generally seem to be prepared to capitulate to anything. and
(b) I do not simply accept things at face value because they mistakenly believe the 'Kiss' Principle and and Ockhams Razor are somehow semantic & Scientific RULES rather than merely guidelines.
Hope that is useful.
- Quantumsniper
quantumsniper.wordpress.com
If you guys read my post now, you wouldn't be so sure anymore. Look at all the resignations that are taking place this year....
Have you considered proofreading?
I love how the longest posts are the people flipping over how your wrong. I have heard more then enough theories to k ow what's going on in this world. Personally thpogh I couldn't care less. If the government is a bunch of puppets, oh well. I'm just gonna live my life as I have been. If not, all the more reason.
+1 nuff said.
My husband is a conspiracy theory nut, his so called facts are you tube videos, any one can make a you tube video dosent mean its fact, no matter what I say I'm wrong and he is always right, I know there is bad in this world but its not just illuminate, but what do I know, I'm ignorant because I refuse to live my life in fear.
OMG the first comments here were made 23 months ago. 23 months ago! OMG this is totally a conspiracy. You have just shown us all the truth here. It's plain as day. The vale has been removed. You're definitely in on it. No, you are the one who is actually in control and behind all of it. You are the one who you are telling us that "does not exist".. it all make s perfect sense now. }break out{ hahaha!!! omg... people are so gullible.. I used to be paranoid, you know, everyone is out for them selves.. those in power have a need to control with absolute power over the little man, there are so many plots against me and all other "common men" that I will never be able to live a long and happy life. Then one day I woke up to a new world. The new world I woke up into was one of wonder and freedom. I said to my self "you know what Edward? Maybe some one really is controlling the world, maybe someone really is out to get you, but if you are afraid of them and what they will do to you or your loved ones or your fellow common men, then you have already lost, they have already won and have already defeated you." I talk to myself in run on sentences don't worry it might be normal.. anyway then I said to my self "Well, fuck it, I'm just going to do what I want and try my best to live a happy and honest life." and you know what? I think that on that day, and every day after I won.
Im sorry but, why would a 'secret' group such as the illumaniti, who want dominance throughout the world, still be a secret group? What's the point? How are they gaining from that?
Secondly, you are all too quick to blame a group in which you have no idea about, whether that's where they are, who they are or what they do. Why don't you start doing some research on operations such as MKUltra, or Operation Northwood and start to realise that country's Governments have no problems with blowing the shit out of their own countries, or testing methods of interogation out on their own people. Tell me 9/11 couldn't have been done by the US Govt after reading up about Op. Northwood.
Finally, a lot of you only know about the illuminati because of Tupac and these modern rappers. Seriously? Im sure that these upper class illuminati people love rap music (who can't love Jay-Z?), but im sure they'll have better world domination plans than making a few rappers throw up a triangle every now and again.
Open your eyes people, the world is unpredictable and yes there are a lot of bad people out there. But don't start linking them all to this secret organisation, it's clearly fear mongering, just as much as religion is.
There seems to be good in this world, so why not evil. And I'm sure that if there's extreme good, there is extreme evil. So I don't doubt that The Illumnati exists. When I watch interviews of Anton LaVey and his daughter, what they stand for and set out to do, it makes me wonder "Why are you doing this?" You know, it's just kind of there, straight from the horse's mouth. You just decide for yourself whether or not you want to believe.
what wendy says iz exactly what is happening. she does not want to live in fear and that's why she does not believe Illuminati control the world.Whatever religion we follow, Satan is an open enemy for us.I request u to plz be open-minded and dont let them control our minds and enslave us. God has given us brain to choose whatever we want and we know what is right.Death to the conspiracy!!!
So right a lot of people cite youtube vids and that's their only source im like come on now. And don't use infowars cus all Alex Jones does is twist the Bible and make money off of you.
@jen, nd yeah there is evil, and no its not the illuminati. theres people called terrorists, gangs, and mobs, pedofiles, those are the bad people that directly cause evil things to happen all around us. But u fucking crazy people insist that a secret organization that doesnt even exist is the evil? WTF if u wanna help people, stop spreading lies and fear into the feeble minded. Try doing charity or starting a fucking night watch or something
Noone started out a conspiracy theorist, I have personally done much research. You say were closed minded but you mock people for believing something different, you say there are no secret societies and then admit there are, you recite a quote that a theory cannot be proven only disproven and then you ramble on about providing evidence. You spend a large amount of the article insulting our intelligence with the definition of a theory. I take it you dont believe the theory of relativity either? After all its just a theory. Judging by this article you have done little to no research and are blindly charging in to a topic your unknowledgable of, and you call us arrogant. Your article is a poorly constructed joke.
If The Illuminati Is Such A Big Conspiracy After All These Years Why Bring It Up Now And If They So ''Secretive'' Do You Think They Will Be So Dumb To Bring It To The Public(Not So Secrative Anymore What A Waste Of World Domination). NO I DONT HAVE PROOF But Common Since Will Tell You Shit Happens ITS CALLED LIFE. To Me The Illuminati Is One Of Those Fairy Tales That Our Future Generation Will Tell There Kids Just So They Can Go To Bed. Im Just Saying If The Illuminati Is Real Then We All Pawns Rich, Middle Class, And Poor Because We Look Up To People Like Oprah, Bill Gates Obama, Dr. Phil, T.D. Jakes, ETC For Guidance But Are Very Same People We Claim That Are Evil Or In Occult
If you think evidence and reason is so important then why do you believe the official story? The governments conspiracy theory is one of the stupidist out there. Look into the other side of the argument rather than spewing out crap without researching. And your stereotypical ideas about conspiracy theorists are just nonsense. Get a grip and do some research rather than trying to reassure yourself that its all 'made up' and that everything is fine. Idiot.
Can You Actully Prove It To Me That Its Real Joe?
"Any scientist will tell you that nothing can be proved"
"Five scientific facts that PROVE the world will not end in 2012"
Lolwut?
Just learn about the federal reserve and the rothschilds be more open minded instead of ridiculing it before doing any research. You may find it very interesting and realise its not just a stupid conspiracy theory as they would obviously want you to think. The money masters is a good video to watch and learn about how they have taken control of the monetary system and therefore everything else. Sorry for getting a bit passionate earlier but it just annoys me to see people claiming its all just a stupid conspiracy theory without doing any research
Its Ok Joe No Hard Feelings And I Agree Its Not A Stupid Conspiracy But Its Seem Like Everybody Have They Head Wrapped Around This Theory So Deep Its Like A School Rumor. People Believe This Theory More Then They Own Religion And Was Brought Up Almost 2 years Ago Its Supposedly Been Around For Years But Now Its Been Brought Up And Yes I Have Done My Research And I Saw The Video At The Same Time But Anybody Can Do A Video And Spread Rumors And Lets Say If It Is Real Who Will Risk They Life Giving Out That Kinda Information. This Is Something We Dont Suppose To Know About But Yet It Was So Easy To Spread Out Into The World Thats Why I Dont Think Its Real. If The Illumanti So Called Have The World In There Hands Why Let Secrects Like That Be Leaked. Why Waste Your Time If It Havent Been Proved In Your Face.
I am one of the anxious and vulnerable people that irrationally believe others when they talk about different conspiracy theories. All I have to say is, stop telling people like me about this stuff! It's making us paranoid! I don't care whether it's true or not! For the past day or so, I've lost sleep because of an irrational fear of whether the Illuminati are real or not. Do you know how I spent my day? On the internet, reading about the Illuminati's influence over Disney. There goes my freaking childhood. Now stop scaring me so I can enjoy my life and stop feeling so effing paranoid!
@Rickrideshorses - Forgive my use of the Matrix as a loose anology here but I feel it's somewhat appropriate. Conspirators have taken the red pill - tumbling down dark holes, following a thousand trails to nowhere in search of an elusive truth. Those who have taken the blue pill are unwilling to question the offical word of authority.
Many online sources purporting these conspiracies (illuminati/2012/aliens/new age religeon/spiritual awakening etc.) were literally 'dumped' onto the web just after the turn of the century, coinciding with the popular 9/11 truth movement. My opinion is alternative media is being used to simulate the truth movement, so as to occupy, contain and discredit the opposing field of information. It should be of no conspiracy that every successful governing body will attempt to control both sides of the population's information flow - it's a necessary component of maintaining an empire. "Money makes the world go 'round". Those with the most money and inherently so, power, are the ones with the 'ability' to dictate the general direction and speed in which the globe spins. The big question is, what are the intentions of these people and how closely do they cooperate with eachother to achieve the goals derived from their intentions? Do you perceive the world in black and white or are you dazzled by the spectrum of colors in between? I don't entertain conspiracy theories because I understand who was likely to have placed them there, but more importantly, why they were placed there. Ignorance is bliss for those who are unfamiliar with a blissful experience.
Any video you watch about secret societies was likely created either by disinformation agents (to divert from absolute truth and to ridicule the underlying concept of the theory) or by useful idiots who are unwillingly spreading 'disinformation' they heard elsewhere. @ Dr No. 3 You're correct when you say such a secret society would never reveal the ultimate truth - but if they do exist, it would help their cause to reveal truths in plain sight, wrapped in crazy lies. I have no doubts the rich and powerful collude behind closed doors to make collective decisions regarding the direction of their empires. At the end of the day I see it as a logical, necessary part of nature. It represents the inversed supporting pillars of our establishment and such a group of people would (hopefully) only be making decisions that they believe are in the best interests of the evolution of the race they are responsible for. Such decisions would not be easy to make. To the loved-up populations, these decisions would appear as misunderstood evils, based on the required division of knowledge between the classes. To deny their existence
without evidence is delusional. Signs of logic certainly point to their existence. To assume democracy/politics is the be all and end all of decision making is also delusional, however politics has it's effect on smaller scale issues. It's open to interpretation as to whether the 'secret societies' are doing the right thing. Personally, I don't think you can blame Ying & Yang, nor can you stop it's momentum.
good to see others are NOT blindly following the sensationalized conspiracies littered acrossed the internet! people are too easily mislead by the cesspool of information out there. i agree with your views on conspiracy theorists, but understand they are simply obsessed with the idea of uncovering truth and informing others - well intentioned, just very mislead. and yes, many are arrogant fools who don't see the forest for the trees. i also generally agree with the posts above where the person is saying a lot of these conspiracies are placed in our faces to divert & ridicule - well said! think about oil tycoons, resource tycoons, banks, pharmaceuticals & conglomerates and the collective power they could bestow. it makes perfect sense they would use (possibly abuse) their power to maintain/expand their positions in society. but to what degree are they actually doing this? an large evident clue is in media/high profile journalism, where they are simply unable to express opinions that are not aligned with the goals of corporations/conglomerates.
Illuminati is a fact, i used to say its a load of s*** then i did reasearch
Ok first of all you guys don't see the world we do many theories have evidence it is just that many people don't want to admit that they ate wrong we connect evidence into one BIG PICTURE.
FK ALL OF YALL, WHO GIVES A DAMN IF THE ILLUMINATI IS REAL? THE ILLUMINATI SUCKS MAI DI*K AND SUCKS IT HARD HAHAHAHAHA
These guys will make you put your dick in a guys arse you idiot. Your just a mere insect to these guys. The A-Team aka illuminati power houses, practice rituals on an unconscious level, a world un-seen from the human eye an not understandable to our pathetic scientific bound minds. These guys also have alot of money an have used their power to take down spirituality an make it look like some hippy poppy bullshit, so they have all the power while everybody else looks at it like your in a mental institute. This is some serious shit. You guys need to wake up because if you dont learn a thing or two, your just going to die into nothingness, and will be left behind while the rest of us become a lot soul-smarter. I got a fuckin six pack an money an am happy, because i have a brain on my head and dont follow the corwd an go catch S.T.D's at some bar, FUCK THAT!
For all the believers out there heres something to think about. Why would the illuminati make themselves subliminaly known an fulfill religious and new age prophecy of the end-times? (surely 1 of them would have picked up a bible an seen that they were in it over time) Do they really think they could win over god? or are they the just steering us in the right direction towards a better age?
Be safe my friends :)
You, who believe that Illminati exist, do you thinks that you are different from them?
YOU are the real ILLUMINATI you so scared about.
Ya know, whats really funny is all the above people saying " you havent done enough research" ect, whats to say that everything your reading online, books or other fountains of knowledge is a load of lies and BS? Oh wait is it because YOU thought of these things? It works both ways, you think governments bs and theres s deeper meaning behind it all, I could then call BS on your sources, why wouldnt that information be all lies to, even when pulling facts from the net or other theorists hmmm
Eat sleep live love and care for others, be free in mind... Oh and to all guys like Wendy's husband get off the Internet n appreciate beautiful people that love you.
From what iam reading it seems the Illuminati have failed cause it seems like there is a extremely large number of people who believe in the Illuminati, what is the point of them controlling our minds or what ever if so many people are so educated on them, if they let this info out then why control our minds in the first and why do they allow so many of the laws on freedom we have, if they would add in us revolting against them. And for the hundreds of thousand most likely more why dont you do something about it in stead of just writing about it on the internet. If you guys think the world really that messed up then that means ur just letting it happen, and you deciding to write about it on the internet is not stopping them. If i wrote long essay over and over again explaining why having a jobs is important and not actually having a job it will not magically give me a job i have to do something about. Why have you not done anything about it if your so sure that there is a such a group.
If one man created us ll, why is it taking a secret group (Illuminati) to stop it? Surely 'God' can save all of us? As an Athiest and having someone I know turn from a druggy to a 'Born again Christain' preaching to us and putting fear in us I think it's a load of bollox. The Illuminati cards to scare me a bit but surely why go through all these years of scaring us and trying to control the population, why not just nuke us all? IF, that is the power they have?
This article is slanderous.
"Conspiracy theorists are --deeply suspicious-- people who do not trust life."
"Conspiracy theorists are the type of people who constantly --blame others-- for what's happened."
"Conspiracy theorists are --arrogant--."
The way I see it, it's a duality, an eternal war between good and evil. It's positive vs. negative, abundance and growth vs. control and suppression. You can participate in the endless war, or rise above it like Christ/God as One. Look at the yin-yang. It's 3 parts. Light, dark and the middle which is God/One/positive flow, powering it all, spinning electrons. To find God, check out vortex mathematics. God=9. "I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil." Isa. 45:7. We are in the image of God/One. Act like Christ, that also represents One, and you can find peace outside of the eternal war. It's all relative. Accept that evil is necessary to lead us to good.
your all idiots...9-11 was planned by agroup of terrorists..not our government
If you just look around you'll see theres aomething going on in the u.s, our rights are slowly being taken away and the government is more currupt each day. Is the illuminati real? I dont think so but i do think were heading towards another hilter controled germany just in modern days in th u.s. just look around and for god sake do your own reasearch instead of watching tv
Rick, why would you generalize people in this way? Do all people believe things without reason and come up with no evidence? Is it really just irrational people who smell something fishy? It's fishy that you would want me to believe that. Here is evidence of someone questioning an event based on evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaHdtl8KAGg&feature
this is the first and only video that ever made me stop and wonder about the subject it covers.
btw, smelling something fishy never makes me want to hate anyone. Just shows me there is hate in the world. IT shows me there is something wrong. I think we can all agree there is something wrong when we look at the world collectively can't we Rick?
lol sitting on the fence,
I think ignorance is probably the most blissful thing too. But how can the world become a better place without people at least acknowledging or having some sort of appreciation for what is real?
Interesting piece, mate...
The only 'conspiracy' out there is that some time before 6000BCE, the earth was hit by one or more 'civilization-busting' asteroids or comets. This information was 'lost' to such an extent that no orthodox historian will consider it seriously. The next part of the 'conspiracy' is to do with the low-activity of current impact-mitigation efforts (Spacewatch, etc) when, in reality, this ultimate threat to, not only human civilization, but the existence of life-on-earth is completely avoidable.
That is the ultimate 'conspiracy' - our failure to understand our place on a planet in a dangerous neighborhood. I agree, all these other theories are short-sighted, navel-gazing, egocentric point misses. Well, most of them...
If you don't believe the illuminati is real or You think they don't control the world... Ask yourself can you go 24 hrs without watching television or getting on Facebook or Twitter. The reason is because your mind is programmed to get on the web or watch your favorite show or listen to your favorite song. This is the easiest way they can control us and they know it
You admit there are powerful influential people meeting in secret but you say that's not a conspiracy? People who have money and power and are able to influence world events who meet in secret to plan these events...that's the definition of a conspiracy lol. We're the stupid ones?
well now, it seems by the tone of all these statements, you are quite arrogant yourself, you cannot prove any of these statements either, that there indeed is not some kind of corporate entity with lots of money and therefore power that is not greatly influencing things...you can't prove that! It appears you also spend lots of time on the internet because ...you have a blog! People with blogs are on the internet all the time. I would just say you are a non-conspiracy theorist. You are doing and saying everything that you are criticizing in others! Well at least someone people can write about their own apathy and stand up for it! Which is quite ironic i must say. It's a step in the right direction at least...
They're. Taking away our rights... proof is everywhere
I agree with this article, this theory has been around for hundreds of years, the best time to dominate the world would've been in the 1800's. Now it's too hard, we communicate & have too many civilians in the government to be making big moves that they claim to make.
sometimes im like "theres no illuminati or any other cult" but then again, i think about all the things happening in this world. are they all some simple coincidences? ive been doing researches on illuminati for years now and everything is just so obvious that i think some people are basically blinded by them (by the media that they control). WAKE UP PEOPLE. you have to see whats in front of your eyes.
Conspiracy theories such as the "Illuminati" are only around for the amusement of stirring up society. You state that "you have to see what is in front of your eyes", but there is no proof at all that the Illuminati exists, so that is a contradiction right there. Because celebrities make triangles with their hands? If that's enough to sway you, then you're dense. Because there is a pyramid on the dollar bill? I suggest you hit some history books, instead of forums online that were created by random people who know no more about life than you do. Instead of being easily influenced by people you don't know, maybe you should only believe in something when there is proof. It's ridiculous how long this conspiracy theory has gone on, but rumors have been spreading across the Earth since people were created. Whoever created us or however we were created, we sure did get too complicated of brains to summon insane thoughts like this up. That's a curse in itself, just as humans are a curse to the universe.
The term "Conspiracy Theorist" provides a wonderful tool for those groups who are working against humanity to dismiss and discredit any information put forth by so called Conspiracy theorists that would shed light on the conspirators actions.
Those who would make blanket statements that there are no conspiracies are in effect sleeping and living in a nice comfortable dreamworld. You can't be wakened to reality by those of us who have already awakened to it. I was once asleep as you are until I did take the time and effort to educate myself. The New World Order is not a fantasy. It is a well thought out plan implemented in stages over centuries by a small group of highly determined men to set themselves up as the ruling elite over the entire planet.
I don't ask you to believe on my say so but do the work-read the fineprint and then form your own ideas. Some of you will wake up others will not.
I will say this in conclusion-No awakening can occur by nibbling on a few tidbits of information. A complete evaluation can only be achieved with due dilligence taking into account both sides of the arguement. If you set out to gather evidence with the agenda of proving yourself to be "RIGHT" then there is no hope for you to grow, for each of us can find all the support we need to further our own agendas. However, if you set out to gather data from which to then formulate an opinion-then you allow yourself the ability to grow, learn and in turn earn the right to share your wisdom.
I find many of the respondants to this thread to be of the uneducated-poorly informed masses who would prefer to live their lives oblivious to what is going on around them. I pity you. It will be so much harder on you when you wake up to the reality of the NEW WORLD ORDER that your government and others are working toward.I will at least expect it's coming.
My problem is that I don't accept the concept of organized religion and I don't accept that Christianity is the truth. The only way this Illuminati thing works is for The Bible to be true; which it isn't. You can't prove it's real, so stop. I will not accept proof from biased sources who have an benefit in the outcome.
While the government is most certainly capable of lying and deceiving the people (And Does Every Day), who gives a crap? I don't. People are fundamentally corrupt and selfish.
People always ask where do we get these politicians? They don't fall from the sky. The were born, raised, educated, and live in America. People always ask "Where are all the decent, honest, hardworking people of conscience?" The truth: We don't have any of those people. This is the best we can do.
What would be wrong with nations getting along. Nothing. Except that it violates every primitive fear of creatures which is to be clan oriented, geocentric, fearful individuals.
Be different. Except that life doesn't mean much more than Comcast, Chocolate Chip Cookies, and the occasional Orgasm.
Get off that "High Horse" you're riding Rick as your head is too close to the clouds! People like you have been mouthpieces for & downplaying the Illuminati & Protocols of Zion for years. Why is it then that EVERYTHING that we were told or warned about them or in the Protocols keeps coming true? Huh? Must be bad luck or some other LAME excuse you could pull out your ass, Huh? Rick Clay you are not! When I was your age I did not believe it either & hopefully you will wake up eventually too. Good Luck you dam FOOL.
James, If there is an Illuminati, I'd be glad to join. Seems like some pretty decent benefits for that club. Let me ask you this? Given all the power, both physical and spiritual, that the Illuminati supposedly have, what the f**k do you think the fact that you "know" about them is going to do. They'd kill you as soon as look at you. You validate the hypothesis that you spend too much time caring about things you won't ever change.
So to restate: If it's real, what the heck do you think you're gonna do about it? Huh?
I've got one more. Why is it so important to some of you people for life to have a plan or be meaningful? The fact remains that there isn't any "requirement" for life to be meaningful or planned. It might be, might not be. What disturbs me is how people just NEED there to be meaning to things.
LOL conspiracy or not, this system sucks, either way. We get underpaid and prices rise where checks lower.
And there is no one standing up for that.
That doesnt just show how fucking stupid and lazy conspiracy theorists are, it also shows how easy it is for a very rich person to keep the lesser wealthy busy with crazy stories and goofy ipads (which are built to break for more cash ofcourse)... maybe you should get away from your computer and slap some serious political ass.
if i dont get shot by dumbshits then ill start changing things, but not for you people to enjoy
FYI thomas the Illuminati was founded in 1700 something like that, it used to exist because of the church banning scientific research " cause god didnt want humans to do such things" what else could it be.
Basicly they did things that moral standards didnt approve of. so i wouldnt be mind blown if the bavarian illuminati (as the original name is) still exist, hell it would even be a good thing for all i know everyones bitching and crying about stemcells but people are dying so who gives a fuck? Ofcourse, the christian Cult that blew up several hundred years ago
this is real stuff
The problem is many of the conspiracy believers are gullible, and believe everything they read. Too bad they don't realize that the people who make up these theories have nothing better to do than overanalyze this stuff. Whether it's true or not, why don't you people just let it be? If the world is corrupt, you're not going to able to change it. Live your life and enjoy it instead of spending all your time on the internet researching what is mainly lies and things that people make up in their free time.
What's the difference between "colluding" and "conspiring"? The media has done a good job demonizing the word conspiracy ever since the Kennedy assassination. Look up the speech he gave to the american jouralist society not long before he was killed.
Conspiracy theorists are almost or just as bad as religious zealots. You cannot get them to view anything outside of what they are looking for. I used to be religious and began searching for a reason to offer others as proof of my faith. I admit I only searched within terms that would offer me those reasons. Over time I seen enough counterpoints that I could no longer ignore them. But so many continue to ignore them and spread fear. Fear is an awful thing. And people made the wrong choices in everything when they are afraid. Voting the wrong people in office is one big one I worry about.
No Illuminati controlling the entertainment industry and the world ey and they didn't do 911. here's proof enough for me or anyone! Click on the link for the end to the debate and see hardcore facts! http://youtu.be/TyXgM61m2ls
I could never understand how someone that labels "conspiracy theories" as false and absurd, can in turn watch mainstream media and take any of it seriously. Though I don't necessarily believe most theories (and I call them theories as opposed to "conspiracy theories" because the term is misleading and contradicting) a lot of the theories have some merit to them, whether we like to admit it or not. On the other hand, many "theorists" refuse to admit is that most "truthers", such as Alex Jones and Mike Rupert, are assets to the government hired to spread lies from the other side of the argument. But to perceive what we're fed through the television as reality and in turn call whatever we see on the internet as false propaganda is asinine and hypocritical. Isn't believing a reporter or politician, solely because of that person's reputation, an act of blind faith; an act that you "sane" people are so ready to ridicule religious believers over?
I agree the theory of U.S. government being behind the 9/11 disaster is false, due to the major loopholes in the theory, BUT the "official" story told via the 9/11 Commission is even more absurd than the 9/11 truth movement. So therefore we must conclude that neither stories are true, it's just common sense.
Dez,
No hate, but I notice that you contradicted yourself. If you are going to throw in a bible verse, at least read the other verses that help prove Rick's point. Matthew 24: 42,43 states- "Watch therefore: fot you KNOW NOT ( as yet) what hour your Lord does come.
BUT KNOW THIS, that if the good man on the house had known, (perceived of came to the understanding) in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would have suffered his house to be broken up."
Also, the CIA needs to keep things secret, hence the name "Central Intelligence Agency". Would they be the Central Intelligence if everyone knew what was going on in the country? This intelligence is kept from us in oreder to keep us (the average citizen) safe. If everyone knew what was happening, and this fell into the wrong hands, this country would go to hell in a matter of days.
One last point. Illuminati. Itanimulli. A government defense program. If you feel the need to google it, don't take the time, itanimulli dot com. Want to know what pops up? NSA (National Security Association) and CSS (Central Security Service). It was all created by a government extremist to get people like you into believing in a conspiracy theory.
So there you have it. A sceptic who has in fact done his research. Not saying you haven't done your research, Rick. But back to the main point, i have done my research into why the illuminati is real and why it is fake. People like you need to take the time and read an article neutrally about why the illuminati is real and why it is fake. You can't prove something does not exist, you can only prove that something does exist by evidence. There is no proof of a real Illuminati's existence, there's only fictional accounts, blogs, and speculation. None of these constitute evidence of any kind proving it's existence.
Thank you for hearing my opinion,
Logan
To Logan and also "smart"person ^
1. The CIA does not work at the expense of the american people, please stop being so naive.
2. Can you please explain where you got "itanimulli" from and what relevance it has to your theory? Is the re-arranging of letters supposed to signify the disproving of the illuminati? Wouldn't it actually support the claim that the illuminati is hiding in plain sight by illustrating that a company run by government is using a name that closely resembles "illuminati"?
3. Okay, so NSA/CSS is a company specializing in encrypting top secret documents. so what; what's your point?
These next ones are targeted more towards the ones that call anyone that questions authority gullible, arrogant (please who's the arrogant one) and lazy miserable low lifes.
4. Proof is subjective unless it is scientifically proven, thus making it scientific fact. You can't scientifically prove that someone does or doesn't not belong to a group of people. You can though use photographic, and audio evidence with the help of testimonial claims to support your argument.
5. There IS proof secret societies exist (the author of this contradicting blog even admits it for christ's sake). Whether you want to believe that these secret societies are a threat is subjective to the evidence that is provided. If you look at the evidence thinking it's not true before you even look at it, you're not going to see the evidence for what it is, you're going to see it for what it isn't.
6. The illuminati was started in 1776 by a man named adam weishaupt, this is non contestable fact! It's look like you're the one that needs to learn how to research.
kind of ironic, cause you talk of god as if he's real. the story of god is just as plausible as illuminati, or more like a lot less plausible. Before you go around saying people are irrational, small minded and arrogant. look in the mirror because by doing so you are also being arrogant and narrow minded. I'm not trying to belittle your belief i'm just saying try and be a bit more objective
Whoever wrote this is a fu.cking retard..seriously the illuminati is not a THEORY.. and you contradict yourself after dissing conspiracy THERORIES, without looking at the blatant facts.. illuminati is real you idiot.. a theory may be anything but the fact is that GLOBAL ELITES control all of us, the entire populus of the planet is dictated by these swagger boy trillionaires.. oh but "who cares" quoting from your own words.. who cares??? yeah thats exactly the problem.. most people dont fu.cking care and thats why most people are dumbed down retarded sheep.. this article is completely misleading, is contradicing and leads nowhere..epic fail.
John for truth 2 years ago
You've contradicted yourself in third from last paragraph. You admit there are secret societies however state all over your blog that they don't exist.
Some people will never get it and that is okay. Telling the truth and pointing out facts that discredit what the media has told us is just being smart and using the brains that God gave us. Listening to what the media says and simply going along is a mistake. If you don't think that big business and the Federal reserve are running our country you need to do some more research.
I don't label fact finding as "theory" just the people that want to go along with the flow do that so they feel safer, not sure.
9-11 was one of the biggest events that caused millions of people to begin questioning what we were told as fact. There are too many facts that tell us that the planes didn't cause the tumbling of the buildings. I'm not willing to settle for the story that has been told. If you are a smart person, and I believe that you are, you should at least look at the evidence that discredits the official story.
Other events such as Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations are a direct result of two presidents that attempted to shut down the central banks. They were killed, you connect the dots.